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AS
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Joined: 07 Apr 2006
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Location: Oxfordshire

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Olivaceous Reply with quote

Firstly I never said I had no interest in keeping monitors in general, seeing as I do keep monitors this would be a pretty foolish comment for me to make. Secondly, my interest in bengalensis, was more than academic, but as I am sure I told you, I was unable to import a pair.
I did not ask how olivaceous 'rates' as a captive, I asked how people would consider setting one up. One of the main reasons I like varanus.net so much is because of the way it makes you think about why you do what you do as a keeper; whilst I may not agree with a lot of what is said on there, I have never come across anyone who has the ability to make me look at my husbandry practices as critically as FR does. That is all I really wanted to do here, encourage people to think about how they would do it and why. There is no hidden commercial agenda, as you seem to think, I just wanted to enjoy the debate, and toss some ideas around with people who find monitors in general as interesting as I do. It is always nice to know what other keepers do and why they do it. Whilst we could talk about olivaceous in the wild, I am sure not everyone has been to the Philippines, so I wanted to talk about captive hypotheses so we could approach the subject from a perspective familiar to all. Olivaceous remains one of the most enigmatic of the larger varanids, and I wanted to know what everyone thought about this species and hear any theories they may have had about its ecology.
Unfortunately, where ever I have asked about this topic, I seems to have engendered a great deal of negativity, and in some cases outright hostility so I will not post on this subject anymore, and will consider the subject closed.
If you think I have wasted your time just because I wanted to theorize, without having an interest in actually obtaining this species, then I apologise.
Regards, AS
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the topics of many of your posts on this forum as well as others, it is very easy for fellow forum participant like myself to misunderstand your motives or interests, since the majority of your posts involve inquiries about rare or potentially difficult species to acquire. For example:

your inquiry of Varanus bengalensis vietnamensis:
http://www.varanus.nl/forum1/viewtopic.php?id=89
http://www.varanus.net/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?board=Main&message=14787&mode=Current&frames=no

your 'rant' on how it wasn't fair that you were unable to acquire CITES I paperwork for a protected species:
http://www.varanus.net/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?board=Main&message=14831&mode=Current&frames=no

your inquiry of Varanus glebopalma being kept in Europe
http://www.captivebred.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3225

your inquiry of the availability of Lanthanotus boreneensis in the pet trade
http://www.varanus.nl/forum1/viewtopic.php?id=131

your inquiry into the captive care/diet of V. olivaceus- "if any of us are ever lucky enough to get one"
http://www.varanus.nl/forum1/viewtopic.php?id=139

Like I said before, it would be very easy for people like Sean or myself to misunderstand your motives when the majority of your posts on varanid fora deal with either the acquisition or care of rare and/or protected species. Not to take any sides on this matter, but I do feel that Sean's comments were justified, given the history of your posts. To the everyday forum peruser, it would seem as though you were only interested in obtaining rare or dificult to attain species.

Again, I am not trying to take sides on this matter or start any arguments, as I am unaware of your ambitions or goals pertaining to monitor lizards. I thought that I would share my thoughts on this matter, based on the similarity between your posts over the past couple of months. I can understand where Sean is coming from with his thoughts.
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