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RonW
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOw about this paper http://cluster3.biosci.utexas.edu/grad/heatht/wilcox.pdf
it places xenopeltis in the same branch as pythons, not boas. Haven't read it all yet, just a quick scan

This paper also looks interesting, but can't access it. Maybe someone else can?
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=1379276
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link to that second paper Ron, if it doesn't work I can email you the pdf Wink I haven't had a chance to read through the first one you gave yet, be there in a minute! Laughing

http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FSYS%2FS1477200007002290a.pdf&code=acc8b6b3dc187241417e3dfa463249ff

edit: It seems it doesn't place it with Pythonidae, but merely says it is more likely to be related closer to this family then to Boidae. It does however link Xenopeltis closely with the pipe snakes (Cylindrophis) and Loxocemus. No levels of significance were found to support Xenopeltis as a sister lineage to the Pythonidae-Loxocemus clade, which is why the hypothetical phylogenetic tree could be a little confusing as it places them there....if that makes sense Confused Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are stunning!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JStroud wrote:
Here's the link to that second paper Ron, if it doesn't work I can email you the pdf Wink I haven't had a chance to read through the first one you gave yet, be there in a minute! Laughing

http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FSYS%2FS1477200007002290a.pdf&code=acc8b6b3dc187241417e3dfa463249ff

edit: It seems it doesn't place it with Pythonidae, but merely says it is more likely to be related closer to this family then to Boidae. It does however link Xenopeltis closely with the pipe snakes (Cylindrophis) and Loxocemus. No levels of significance were found to support Xenopeltis as a sister lineage to the Pythonidae-Loxocemus clade, which is why the hypothetical phylogenetic tree could be a little confusing as it places them there....if that makes sense Confused Laughing


An uneducated theory... I think unicolour are very closely related to loxocemus... You know, like mirrored evolution as both snakes are extremely similar, yet come from different ends of the earth. Just like chondros and ETB's.

Thanks for those interesting papers! I think they are more pythony than boaesque.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful, they are like Abilone shells when polished Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one word m8.....


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant little snakes! Hope you manage to breed them.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great when i see species ive never seen before, these are gorgeous!
Keep us updated with more pics!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow beautiful snakes mate. my local reotile shop has an adult pair, which i have been eyeing up for a while.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: :) Reply with quote

Beautiful! I used to have a local wildcaught sunbeam snake too , called her Adol hahaha..2 days after I got her she laid 2 eggs but they didn't survive, poor things Sad. Anyways for the duration I had Adol she was the gentlest snake I've ever known and really beautiful. But in the end I let her go back in the wild. I do however get to see sunbeam snakes crossing the road around my house area...bigger ones!! Feel like getting another one after seeing your pics...
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