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im 110% positive. also, i know of quite a few places in america that do them as well. its not as uncommon as you think. granted im sure there arent as many people here, but in america it happens quite a bit. i also speak from personal experience.
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iriechris
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crystal palace reptiles claim that there boscs are captive farmed 07, Do you guys think this is true or just added to try and up the appeal???
check out the website, . . . . thinking of getting a baby from them in July, what you guys think????
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christophermchale
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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they are a reputable place. so captive farmed im sure is the case.
although it doesnt mean captive bred.
it is similar.
its definitely not wild caught.
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| TBH i would have to see the eggs hatch before i believed a pet shop to be producing CB boscs, there is no financial gain for a business which can buy them in for next to nothing to put in the time, space, money that would be involved. I have no doubt that there are private breeders and hobbyists producing them but its nothing more then a personal challenge and would not be worth trying to breed consistently for obvious reasons. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| christophermchale wrote: |
although it doesnt mean captive bred.
it is similar.
its definitely not wild caught. |
'captive farmed' is not similar to captive bred and it's actually worse than wild caught. What they do is collect adult females at the time of year that most are gravid. They keep them until they dump the eggs, which are then incubated. The adult females are not returned to where they were caught but are dumped at a limited number of places.
The reason this is worse than wild caught is that populations can deal with individuals being collected, but when the individuals are all reproductive females in their prime it takes its toll. By dumping them all in the same areas they don't have a chance to find new food sources, hide areas etc, for there is limited resources and excessive competition. It's likely most get hammered by predators.
There aren't many people in the US breeding them, either. Most people with a commercial bent couldn't possibly compete with the $5 imports, but two hobbyists that use these internet forums (one in Canada, the other in the US) have bred them in the past five years or so.
Loulou, 12 eggs is a very small clutch for a savannah monitor and the fact that she ate most of the eggs is a bad sign. If you try to breed them again, set the pair up in an enclosure with very deep burrowable substrate (at least some of which is heated to 30C and kept humid) and you'll get much better results. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought captive farmed was a little different that. I thought the boscs bred from where all from the wild, bred on a big scale in captivity and then the eggs hatched, I never realised they do what u just say croc. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| puddlesplash wrote: | | I thought captive farmed was a little different that. I thought the boscs bred from where all from the wild, bred on a big scale in captivity and then the eggs hatched, I never realised they do what u just say croc. |
just to clarify i am not doubting u in saying that, i mean its just something i never knew  |
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| No problems, I think a lot of people assume that. After all, most 'farmed' animals are bred on the premises. In this instance, the word 'farmed' is misleading. |
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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well you can add another forum user that has bred savannahs in the last 5 years. because probably about 5 years ago i got two clutches out of a female i had and gave all the off spring away. they are probably near adults in western new york.
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