Reptile Forum, Reptile Classifieds - CaptiveBred

[Rickeezee]

[Scott W]

[Rickeezee]

I am sure you have a valid point there Scott, after all experiential learning is the only way in my view. But one could say, that forums such as Captive Breds primary aim is to share experience and information whether it be good or bad, in turn helping to promote the hobby and to support others. As with the forum the data base would be reliant upon peoples goodwill in sharing any information.


To a certain point I can understand why some would not want to share information. After all its about personal choice and not coercion.

Information is power and in some cases can be used to elevate perceived position and status. Retain the information retain the power. I have encountered this many times when employed in various managerial roles. I am sure we have all encountered this to various degrees in our lives in many situations. Its the human condition! Simple as.
Please do not misinterpret this statement; I am not saying all herp keepers retain information to retain power and control. I am just citing that information can be used for these purposes.

What I dislike is blind statements such as you cant do it this way, then the person can not back up such a statement via their own experience, but have read something somewhere, or been told something that may well be inaccurate.

I can also see that the data base may not attract commercial breeders as they may perceive it as divulging business secrets and breeding programmes etc, this in turn may be perceived as a threat to their income. Fair play, and very understandable. My view is that in the long run such a data base can only support the hobby / breeding programmes and lead to a potential wider commercial interest. But I am also a realist and if it doesn't come off then thats Ok to. One can but try these things.
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[redbelly]

Very interesting and a great idea! you know im up for it rick!
Will be Great to know whats what and ensure nice tidy bloodlines

[Rickeezee]

[Chris Anderson]

I helped create and run www.chameleondatabase.com We have users in Europe and the US. Unfortunately, it is highly under-utilized and while everyone says its a great idea, getting anyone to actually follow through and use it has been considerably more difficult. At the moment we're having a database hosting issue and the actually database is down but we've been pushing the system for a few years now with limited success.

Chris
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[Paulk]

This is a very good idea. Bloodlines in the UK can get stale, and inbreeding becomes more of a problem resulting in alsorts of nasty birth defects.

Its a good way of making sure the gene pool doesn't dry up, I know these aren't reptiles but in the world of inverts we had a similar problem with Macleay's spectre. The stocks were becoming inbred and the new hatchlings were not serviving past the 2nd instar but thanks to breeders like myself and many others obtaining eggs from the States and Europe the stock is getting better.

I think we should all try our best to make sure we obtain unrelated stock for breeding its the responsible thing to do. And that sort of organisation will really help the hobby as well as prolong it into the future, and you'll also be helping the CB stock stay strong.

If I had Chams (and i'm sure I will at some point) I would be very interested in this idea Rick.

All the best with it.
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Wish I were an invert!

[Rickeezee]

Thank you Paul. Unfortunately due to lack of interest thus far its a non starter. But in all fairness it has not been widely advertised as an idea.
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