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Cleef · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: Phelsuma laticauda

Picked her up yesterday. Red pigmentation is almost not there. I am not sure if this is because she is (fairly) young or because she has not been kept under good quality light. Probably the latter, after doing a lot of research into lighting it is quite common for CB phelsuma to be a lot duller than WC subjects, largely due to them not being exposed to proper full spectrum lighting. Full spectrum lighting and then supplementing with D3 seems to be the way with phelsuma, I'm stil llooking into this though (for those of you that are interested, THIS is a very useful read)

Anyway here she is

Currently this is the best (close up) view I have had of her. Looking at the photo though is it possible she could be laticauda angularis?

I have altered the saturation in the following picture, so you can get a clearer view of the pattern, looks like angularis to me but as this is my first phelsuma I would like a more experienced opinion

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spookje/ghost · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject:

nice

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Cleef · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject:

some more

beauty
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lol93 · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

Stunning! My favourite species of day gecko! Laughing

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Central Scotland Reptiles · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:

Hi Cleef,

In all my time keeping day geckos i have come to the conclusion that every animal is an individual.
Some day geckos may look slightly different that what is considered the classic or ideal example of a particular species. I would suggest that with species such as laticauda, where there are sub species, that a certain amount of inbreeding / crossbreeding would take place in the wild. As a result any resulting offspring may resemble traits or characteristics from both parents.
I would suggest that even animals from the same species have different geographical differences. Madagascar after all is a very very big island. It would be interesting to see how those laticauda that are native to Madagascar and those that have been introduced to Hawaii differ in terms of colour and pattern if at all!!!
I personally don't get too hung up on subtle differences between the same species.
I agree that captive bred animals are less vibrant in terms of colour than wild caught individuals, this again is relative as to what is considered an ideal example of the species.

Beautiful little gecko all the same.
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Cleef · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

Hi Fraser,

I know what you mean, I am just a bit unsure of how different subspecies really are. If you look at the distribution of lat. lat. and lat. ang. on madagascar there seems to be quite a distance between them. I am not sure if they would breed together in the wild, and I'm assuming noone breeds the two subspecies together in captivity. That's why I would like to determine the subspecies of my gecko, and it does looks more like angularis.

From pictures I have seen I think the gecko I have is female, could you confirm this?

Posing shot for good measure, has definitely got slightly brighter and more confident since I picked her up Smile

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Central Scotland Reptiles · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject:

Cleef,

How old is the gecko?

It certainly looks like a female. Males older than 8 months in age ( approx ) usually have a yellow vent.
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Cleef · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject:

The place I got her from just said CB06. She is 3-4 inches at the moment though, and the box had "Sept" written on it. So would ~6 months be about right for a gold dust of this size? That's all I have to go on
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mark_w · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject:

Steve,

I would say female Phelsuma laticauda angularis too. Very nice indeed Cool

Mark.

Cleef · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject:

Thanks mark Smile

I asked on another forum too, and got the same responses.

It's kinda weird that I came across angularis, I've never seen any available on classifieds/pet shops or anywhere else in the UK. I don't even remember anyone posting pictures or anything on other UK forums, probably wrong though Smile

. I just hope I will eventually be able to get my hands on a male Confused

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