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Jase
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Rats, Multimammates or Mice Reply with quote

At the moment i breed my own mice to feed my 2 Royals. Since reading on the forum, most of you seem to feed your Royals with rats.
With my collection of Royals soon to expand I am curious as to your experiences of having a lot of mouths to feed, should I continue to expand my mouse setup or upgrade to rats or even multimammates?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go with rats all the way Wink

Don't use multi's unless that's a last resort, mice are fine but once your balls are adult you may find it hard getting enough mice into to them to keep them 'breeding fit'.
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Jase
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I was thinking, my male is banging 4 medium to large mice a week and ideally would have more and he's only 635g at the moment Very Happy
I'm gonna have to convert the shed - the step mother hates the mice in the house, let alone rats Exclamation

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Scott said. I have 6 colonies of mice for most of my collection and one colony of 1.3 rats to feed my 10 balls. I have 6 adults, 2 girls and my pastel boy at about 2 years, and my girl pastel at not quite one year. The one rat colony has reduced my need of mice by around 150 per month. Even my corns will eat the rats. One draw back is that my balls cannot eat a full grown large rat, so make sure you feed them off quickly enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to sneak in but is a 150gram rat big enough for a 1600gram girl.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike h wrote:
sorry to sneak in but is a 150gram rat big enough for a 1600gram girl.

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I can't really visualise a 150g rat but use the rats girth compared to the snakes as a guide, the rat should be no bigger than the fattest part of the snake. Royals are quite good, they no what's too big and will often not even attempt to eat it.

Also, smaller more frequent meals are better during cooling cycles.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sguido, so you get enough rats from one colony to feed ten Royals plus corns?! Do you ever run short? At the minute I'm running off 2.6 mice with females in separate tubs and just have enough for my Royals and Corns. I'll look into getting rats this weekend if I only need one colony. When you say colony, do you mean in one cage or do you separate females? Do you remove the male at any point?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have in one tank 1 male and 3 females. I do not separate the boys/girls when babies are present. I usually end up feeding some of the rats to my corns to help reduce the inventory. I have one male amel that can eat a juvenile rat. Half my royals are off feed right now so I have rats to spare. My girl Roxanne prefers eating mice but will take small rats once in awhile. I raise many extra mice to supply a breeder in my area with the extra that he needs. I get credit for them that I then apply to a new snake. This year its an 06 spider male and an 06 mojave female. Man I cannot wait! I am giving him cash for 1/3 of the price and somewhere around 2700 mice to cover the rest. Should take about 10-12 months if the plan works out.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 1300 gram male royal only eats gerbils Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
(the last person decided h would like them more)
how could i convert him
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

normally through re-scenting your choosen prey with the scent of a gerbil.
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