Reptile Forum, Reptile Classifieds - CaptiveBred

slate58 · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject:

Martin, I don't know where you think you're posting but this is a friendly forum and I think you'll find most users don't appreciate such attitudes. If your looking for a fight then please take it to one of the other forums where they enjoy such childish behaviour!
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martin day · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject:

thiinking about it i have been a bit stupid Embarassed

dirtydozen i appolgise

dirtydozen210 · Contributing Member Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 93

no worries mate, i do too if i have offended you in any way

martin day · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject:

cheers

how big is your black throat have you any pics

puddlesplash · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject:

Reptilekeeping.com · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject:

puddlesplash · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject:

There are other people who have also got many years breeding experience without using UV lighting at all.

I think its stupid to call people cruel for not using UV lighting. Leopard geckos are sometimes awake in the daylight so they would be submitted to UV light in the wild aswell, its not essential to its growth, as its not been proven with a bosc, so to say its cruel with monitors it'd have to be said for every species.

Daisyleo · Contributing Member Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

I use UV with my bosc and with the tegu purely as I can't see anything detrimental by using it? he has grown loads since we got him he's always healthy, strong, feisty and out basking so it can't be upsetting him at all, I would rather he had too much UV than not enough Smile

just my two penneth as that was what the thread is about and I can't comment on not using it as I haven't had that personal experience but I do agree they are day basking therfor I think it's only right to set them up the same as you would any day lizard Very Happy

slate58 · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:11 am Post subject:

Might have thought out that last statement a little better;

"I would rather he had too much UV than not enough"

as with humans excess amounts of UV is being proven to be detrimental in reptiles;

"Excessive UVA however can be a problem, causing blindness, skin damage, immune dysfunction, skin erythema , punctate keratitis, blepharospasm, cataracts, pterygium, photodermatitis, skin cancer around eye, conjunctivitus and precursor lesion - melanoma."

UKChameleons.co.uk (2002) Chameleon Lighting http://www.martinsreptiles.co.uk/ukchams/uvlightingresearch.htm
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Daisyleo · Contributing Member Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

to be blunt I know what I meant by that comment and I didn't mean I would rather he'd go blind that not have it, as I said they are day basking lizards so what makes them any different to uro's, tegu's, beardie's, chameleon's all of which I keep and supply UV for? of course again this is only my method of keeping, what you all do for your animals is totally your choice and I won't slate any of you for not doing it "my way" peace and love is the key Laughing