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best dart frog / tree frog for beginner

 
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BossHogg
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: best dart frog / tree frog for beginner Reply with quote

the more i see these little guys the more i want but i want to start with something that's pretty easy as i have never kept amphibians before ( well except for mud-skippers and terrapins)

so what would be best, a rescue place near me has just got some fire bellies in what there like

thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya Clare, Whites tree frogs are considered 'easy' to keep and good for beginners as are fire bellied toads. I'm in the process of setting up a viv for whites first time for me too!!! Mu daughter has decided she wants fire bellied toads for her birthday so I'm in the planning stages of that also.

Tree frogs need a higher viv rather than longer with plenty of branches etc for climbing. Fire bellies are better in a longer type aquarium. Most people seem to keep fire bellies in a half land half water type setup. There are quite a few posts on vivs for both whites and fire bellies on here have a read through all the previous threads.

Dart frogs I can't help you with not got round to darts yet that's next years project Exclamation

Have a look at these links they may be of some help they where for me
http://www.pollywog.co.uk/

http://www.dartfrog.co.uk/equipment.html

http://www.everythingforpets.com/exo_terra_glass_terrariums.pet/use.id.5.item_id.6373.dept.1136/

http://www.livefoodsbypost.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYCAT&catid=2

This thread is worth a read too .............

http://www.captivebred.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5199
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for a good starter Amphibian I would recomend fire bellie toads if you just want some kind of amphibian.

For a good starter dart frog there's a number of options:

E. tricolor - Easy to care for breed well and have a neat call.
in Dendrobates I would look at leucs. tincs, or auratus the two first species are very bold and incs come in variuos forms but its best to stick with one form per tank as hybrids in dart frogs is seen as a bad thing.

With a dart frog tank you can landscape using a variety of plants woods and mosses makes for an attractive display and IMO there's nothing cooler than a miny ecosystem.

First thing to do would be to set up a tank and let it mature a bit whilst it's maturing practice culturing fruit flies. springtails and other small food items.

then talk to other hobbyists and figure out what species is best suited to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just thought i would mention that mudskippers are not amphibians they are fish and terrapins are reptiles.

Whites tree frogs are on of the best tree frogs for a beginner
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found some caudates (salamanders and newts) to be the "easiest" amphibian to keep, providing you dont have an over hot house. Tiger sals for example get very well adjusted to captivity and will beg for food, as they are greedy! Firebelly toads are more active, so excellant if you want to watch something. Whites tree frogs are lazy and nocturnal, so wont really do much until the evening.

It really depends on what you want from your amphibian!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazon milk frogs are a very easy to cater for alternative to whites.

Dart frog wise, Paul has covered it very well. I would just add Phyllobates terribillis as another option. Large, bright bold and ballsy frogs, they can take larger prey items than most darts.


If you have never kept any amphibians before, Fire bellied toads are a hardy easy to care for introduction to anurans.
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