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danceswithsavs I'm new here...
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: Komodo parthenogenesis |
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http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2006-12-20T181018Z_01_L1874881_RTRUKOC_0_US-BRITAIN-DRAGONS.xml&src=122006_1441_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters
Quote: | LONDON (Reuters) - Flora, a pregnant Komodo dragon living in a British zoo, is expecting eight babies in what scientists said on Wednesday could be a Christmas virgin birth.
Flora has never mated, or even mixed, with a male dragon, and fertilized all the eggs herself, a process culminating in parthenogenesis, or virgin birth. Other lizards do this, but scientists only recently found that Komodo dragons do too.
"Nobody in their wildest dreams expected this. But you have a female dragon on her own. She produces a clutch of eggs and those eggs turn out to be fertile. It is nature finding a way," Kevin Buley of Chester Zoo in England said in an interview. |
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herp_boi CaptiveBred Addict!

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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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very good mate it certainly is "nature finding it's way!"
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Scott W Site Admin

Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 13355 Location: London, England.
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Anyone know where they get her from and how long have they had her? _________________
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signchris Contributing Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 76 Location: Athens Greece
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info man!
First time i heard something like this.
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Rickeezee Site Moderator

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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I can find out. See my post under general. _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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garysumpter CaptiveBred Addict!
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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This made me smile when I read it this morning.
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davo Captivebred Communist

Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 1091 Location: glos.
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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same gary. When i saw her in the summer i didnt realise the other babies werent hers. |
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JStroud Site Moderator

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 4095 Location: Bucks
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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davo wrote: | same gary. When i saw her in the summer i didnt realise the other babies werent hers. |
The babies were hers, but through a parthenogenetic phenomonem she internally self-fertilized without the help of a male. So in theory all the babies hatched are genetic clones of herself. I think it's only been recorded once in one other varanid (?) and only a handful of times in the whole reptilian taxonomy...  _________________ Regards James Stroud |
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thomas mcpherson CaptiveBred Addict!
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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i herd that it had not been mated in three years that what i was told |
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JStroud Site Moderator

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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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The female was young when it was arrived, it had previously been kept with its male siblings but mating is highly doubtful as they were all immature at the time. As far as everyone knows it has never been mated... _________________ Regards James Stroud |
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