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danceswithsavs
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 Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: ssp or sexual dimorphism? |
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I have a pair of savs. i'm sure about the female and fairly sure on the male. If they are the same subspecies, then the dimorphism is very pronounced.
So that's what i was wondering- are the just different sexes or different subspecies or both?
Here are some pics to help.
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AlbigularisCrazy
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Location: Manteca, Ca.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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umm.... think your very confused. There the same species, exanthermaticus has no subspecies.
Those pictures are not the best for sexing.
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Chad |
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danceswithsavs
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: SUBSPECIES |
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perhaps i am not up to date. where did you get your information?
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Varanus_exanthematicus.html
| Quote: | | V. exanthematicus has five subspecies (Steele 1996). This is why the measurements and descriptions vary in much of the literature. |
my 2 savs are very different. coloring, body & tail length, head shape- remarkably different.
the camera is busy over xmas, but when i get it again, i'll get some reasonable side by side pics and try again. |
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crocdoc
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: Re: SUBSPECIES |
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| danceswithsavs wrote: | | perhaps i am not up to date. |
That's what the problem is here. Varanus exanthematicus used to be considered a wide ranging species with a few different subspecies. It has since been split into two different species, the blackthroat/whitethroat group, Varanus albigularis and the savannah monitor Varanus exanthematicus.
If you read that link, then read the Rodney Steele book (shocking reference, by the way), you'll see that they mention savannah monitors getting up to 2m in length. That's because Varanus albigularis gets to 2 metres. Varanus exanthematicus is a much smaller lizard. Yours are both Varanus exanthematicus
They do look like male and female by the head pics, though. |
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