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johne.ev · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: LAYING PROBLEMS

Hi all.
my female panther(approx 7months old) has dropped 7 infertile eggs (she has not yet been mated with the male) she is still very heavy & swollen. she had been digging in nesting box for last 3 days on & off but is not laying.i have replaced laying box with larger one approx size 24" x 14" x 12" deep. i have filled with sand/soil mix, the eggs she dropped on floor (bare) of viv & in drip tray, any ideas/advice much appreciated.

thanks.

Rickeezee · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject:

Hello you could try a plant in the tub of soil, she may feel more at ease with this, cover viv up with towel and keep her somewhere real quiet, she may not like the nest site, could try with a small heat mat attached to the nest box to warm soil up. I have noticed that the young female panthers can be prone to acting like this sometimes. Usually first time layers!

Ok is she moving around or tending to stay still? Watch out that she does not dehydrate they are prone to self neglect when in this state.
A bit drastic, but if needed you could make nest box out of an exo terra faunarium and place her in this with some foliage for cover. then her whole temporary home is a nest box! This may encourage her to lay correctly. Easier still then to dd heat mat to tank! Good luck please keep us informed of progress, I hope she is ok.

Main thing is to enure if possible that she is releasing the eggs, else this may not be looking so good for her. She is obvioulsy ready to lay them as has been dropping them on the viv floor. She needs to expel tham all as you know. If highly concerend a trip to vets may be required if she ceases to produce them. The vet may induce via an injection this is harsh but needs must perhaps?
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johne.ev · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject:

Thanks Rick.
she is moving about ok & drinking ok will try plant idea though.
cheers.

Rickeezee · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject:

redbelly · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:

keep her out of traffic,somewhere nice and peaceful,some female panthers take up to a week to lay and spend time digging test holes in the wild they normally lay where the soil is damp and loose i.e near and in the roots of shrubs and trees,females can get fussy with laying sites and as rick said you might think about moving her to a bigger nesting sites,but stress is the biggest killer in cases like this,try not to look at her and cover her viv up...if you can see her she can see you. the options for you are to use a plastic dust bin with a thick layer of substrate and a clamp lamp to heat the bin,another thing you could try and has worked for me is a layer of leaf litter on top of the nesting site.
if she has never been mated the "slugs" should be smaller and easy to pass, but retention of the eggs will cause death so it is very important to induce the laying of eggs a vet can to this for you with an injection of Oxytocin,but beware you must act quickly when this type of problem occurs and the problem must be sorted aggressively

best of luck
Luke

johne.ev · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: LAYING PROBLEMS part 3

Hi again.
got in from work this evening, straight into the garage ( converted rep room) to check on my little girl. when i left this morning she was back in the box digging. i found 2 more infertile eggs one in dripper tray, the other on top of laying box, she looks very tired & swollen again.to avoid my thread becoming like a soap opera, will leave it for a couple of days before i post again..... p.s thanks scottishdragon but unfortunately their infertle, i haven't yet put her with my male, but thanks for taking time to reply.

beardie barmy · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:51 am Post subject:

my female Yemen chameleon did exactly the same as yours she did manage to lay all her eggs but it took so much energy out of her she passed away i tried everything but for me it was not to be i did manage to save the eggs though and they should be hatching soon there all i have left from what was a very expensive project. i hope that your girl pulls through but if she does die don't be to hard on yourself in sure you have done all you can

Rickeezee · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:01 am Post subject:

If you can ensure she is well hydrated and offer waxies.
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scottishdragon · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:12 am Post subject:

I know the feeling I also lost my female Yemins Sad

and with all the will in the world, there is not much you can do if they are egg bound. I know I tried everything but she still passed. She left me with 42 babies from a previous clutch, and I have some good memories to look back on.

John
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