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mattie · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: very bad shed

woke up this morning and noticed patches of blood on my male leos substrate ( kitchen roll) after checking on him his back feet were bleeding, im really worried as nothing like this has happened before, any ideas why this has happened ( he had access to a humidity chamber) ive bathed him and applied a weak solution of povodine to his feet, fingers crossed they heel on their own if theres no improvement tonight im gonna take him to the vets ,any advice will be appreciated, this happened to any one else
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mattie · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:

well just got back from the vets, and she has no idea what happened either, seems his back feet are infected, how this happened overnight i dont know but hes been prescribed a anti biotic called baytril to use for ten days, any one used this?

Peter Parrot · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject:

Used it with tortoises a good while back and had good results. Fingers crossed for you Wink

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mattie · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject:

well hes lost a couple of back toes but hopefully hes over the worst now heres a couple of pics of my soldier

mattie · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject:

you can make his toes out on this a bit better

herplover212 · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:48 am Post subject:

I have never used it, but heard great things about it. I am in the US and it is hard to get my hands on it. I normally use neosporin.

Was this the first bad shed? Does he usually use the humid hide, or does he not like it? Just curious - the only times I have dealt with sheds that bad are with rescues who were housed on sand with no humid hide offered. I use shelf-liner for a substrate, and paper towel, pete moss or bed-a-beast for humid hides for my leos - not a mix, just whatever I have on hand at the time! Smile

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mattie · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject:

herplover212 · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:11 am Post subject:

Hey Mattie,

To be honest, my initial thought is that the female dominated him while he was in the same set up. I am guessing she did not let him into the humid hide, or maybe near the food &/or water. One, or both, of those situations could have caused him to have a bad shed. My other thought is is she did indeed dominate him, he may have been kept from food for awhile and that would also cause bad stress due to lack of nutrients that dusting provides. (Healthy adult leos can go weeks without food and show lil to no signs of losing weight - can, not should. ha ha) I have had a few rescues myself that have come to me with no toes. One was very, very bad and it looked as though the foot itself was also partially missing on a few legs. I used neosporin on all of them, and though they don't ever get the toes back, they all are fine and thriving today.

I don't know how long you have owned or bred leos, so I don't want to insult you with offering opinions. However, I would strongly recommend to never, ever house males and females in a one-to-one ratio and never leave a male in with a female after mating, as the male will continue to mate the female at will and stress her out to no end. (In some cases, the female can be dominant and stress the male out.) You should only have to offer the male to the female one time in the spring and they can and will retain sperm and produce up to 8 clutches off one mating. Some leave the males in a couple nights, but even then, most breeders here have two or three females to one male. (I know I mentioned above that your female could have been dominant, and that is because she was gravid and probably trying to prepare to lay eggs. Egg binding can be fatal, and a female with one male could retain the eggs and have problems.) If you don't already, make sure to give the gravid female extra calcium (no D3, no phosphorus) as she is laying. The eggs take a lot of nutrients out of a female.

Again, please don't take offense to anything I have said. I am just offering my two cents, and explaining how I go about it! Smile

Thanks and I am sure he will be just fine!

-Shanna
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Rickeezee · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:20 am Post subject:

One of my lep gex had a bad shed. He has always been the runt and is much smaller than the others. When he shed the old skin did not come away properly from his head and covered both his eyes.

I separated him and bathed his head a few times each day and very gently massaged the skin off over a three day period. I had to be very carefull around his eyes and keep his head moist to soften the skin up. I eventually manged to clear his eyes they did not look good, he could not open them properly for a week.

So was hand feeding him every day until he recovered. He is now thriving. Still not quite as big as the others, but he is one of my favourites as he is the underdog, I tend to favour the underdog in life. Bless him.

Good luck with yours Mattie. Very interesting information Shanna, nice one.
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