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[reptileparadise]

Hi guys!
I've got a question about my some of my milli eggs.
First, the info...
The eggs where laid on 4th april 2008
The male and female are first time breeders. Both two years old and over 20 grams.
The eggs are incubating in a cocopeat / perlite mixture. Don't know the exact humidity. Incubation temperature 26,5 to 27 celcius.

And now the problem...
The eggs are fertile and started growing very well. After 4 days in the incubator I checked them for veins and such and both eggs had a red glow and where showing veins.
Now, more then two months later, the eggs/young should be preparing to hatch. I candled them again (without picking them up!) and both eggs seem 'empty'. At the bottom of the eggs I can see there's 'something' but the upper half off the eggs don't show anything anymore. Its yellow, no veins and no darkness of a possible young. Half way down the egg I can see a dark patch. Probably around 4, maybe 5 mm big and round (eye on a eggsack?)

Could the young have died somewhere along the line? Is the cocopeat/perlite mix to acid? (I'm incubating all other eggs in pure perlite. Except for two O. monillis eggs. They are in the same egg container as the milli eggs but they seem fine)
If the eggs where bad, shouldn't I have smellt something? They look mighty fine (perfectly white and they have grown).

I think its still to early to open the eggs up (where at 69 days now). But somehow I have a bad feeling about this...
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[Jas]

I have had eggs incubate full term only to find nothing in them, from what you describe it does sound as though they may have died at the start of incubation and taken on a little water, hence the egg growing a little.
I doubt your incubating medium had anything to do with it, it just wasnt meant to be, after all it was the first clutch.. Good luck with the rest of the eggs though!
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[reptileparadise]

Thanks
I'll leave them in the incubator since you just never know...When they start moulding or stinking I'll open them, but for now I have more then enough room so no need to throw them away...

It just seems so odd to me. Never had this happen before (only 5 years expierence though...)
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[Jas]

[Steve H]

I hatched these in spag moss with leo eggs in the same tub.Think you are right to wait as you never know.
I found mine not to be temperature sexed like the leo eggs they incubated with, as nomatter if i incubated at low 80s or high 80s it always turned out that a pair of eggs laid together produced a male and a female.

[reptileparadise]

Thanks.
I've heard something like that before. I would be perfectly happy with pairs!
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[reptileparadise]

Yes...I'm an official crybaby!
Just found this wee little thing in the incubator.
(yes, I've seen the leg, I'm keeping an eye on things)



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