Reptile Forum, Reptile Classifieds - CaptiveBred

Morbid · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Common chamaeleon?

Anybody knows someone breeding Chamaeleo chamaeleon? I would like to get in touch with a breeder.
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Ramos · I'm new here... Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 13

Don't think it is allowed to house them. At least at Portugal it isn't because it is a local species and it is said they don't survive in captivity.

kinyonga · Contributing Member Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 126

I don't think you can get them from Spain or Portugal but I don't know if North Africa has stopped their export or not.

I had 5 WC adults in the early 90's. They all lived for several years. Of the eggs that hatched I kept back about a dozen and they almost all lived to be about 6 years old.

IMHO, they are no harder to keep than veileds or panthers....the problem comes with hibernating them to get them to reproduce in captivity.

Morbid · Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:50 am Post subject:

Thanks for the info..

kinyonga: Don´t want to have the North African animals.

There will be no problems for me with the hibernating-period, I think. How did you keep them? What temp´s did you have during the hibernation-period and for how long did you hibernate them?

I am thinking that it have to be some captivebred specimens somewhere..
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kinyonga · Contributing Member Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 126

May I ask why you don't want the North African ones?

I didn't hibernate them. If they were cooled with food in the stomach it would likely ferment...if they were cooled too cool they wouldl, of course die...if they were not cooled enough they would use their fat reserves too quickly and maybe die...so I decided just to enjoy them and only cooled them. If they are not in top condition going into the aestivation they will likely get sick.

In nature they will stop eating due to a shortage of insects. They will be free to move to find a suitable temperature to aestivate at. We have a hard time ensuring that we get it all right.

Morbid · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:19 am Post subject:

kinyonga · Contributing Member Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 126

There have been some people with WC's posting on different forums lately...don't know how they are getting them or where they are coming from.

I only mentioned the "difficulties" that could be faced in hibernating them in case you were a "newbie" to it.

I keep various turtles/tortoises and uros that also have to be hibernated to reproduce...so I have learned a few things about it...and have friends that have learned a few things from it through losing their animals.

I think the biggest surprise I got was when my 3 toed box turtles reproduced after only having a WEEK of cold temperatures!

Morbid · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:47 am Post subject:

kinyonga · Contributing Member Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 126

What do you have that has to hibernate?

Morbid · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: