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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: dimmer amd mat stat Reply with quote

I have a dimmer and mat stat max temp is 92 F but the mat stat just kills the heat from the mat so i have no heat from the mat
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to use a habistat thermostat, which was 92f max and had the same problem. I now use Lucky Reptile Thermostats and the problem has now resolved itself. You can set Lucky reptile thermostats to higher temps so you can get a higher heat mat temp.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: mine is a micro stat Reply with quote

mine is a micro stat
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd be a bit concerned when using heat matt's and leaving the probe on the side of the viv an inch or two higher than the newspaper/heat matt/surface temperature/substrate level. In my opinion this takes away the whole point of using a thermostat to control surface temperature. If you think of it another way....

the temperature on the heat matt will vary greatly if the probe sensor is trying to heat up the air of the vivarium rather than the surface temperature of the heat matt (where the snake rests). If this happens i'd have thought there'd be a risk of belly burns, because of this difference. I always place stat probes on the heat matt. This way the surface temperature can never rise above what the thermostat setting is. I don't see the point of having a heat matt probe heating air, when you already have a light bulb in there which helps with ambient temperatures greenphase?

I do the same as others with light bulbs. I use low watt bulbs to keep ambient temps up a little.

Not sure how to go about your predicament newpython. I don't like matt stats, perhaps you'd see a difference if you used a pulse stat. When ever i've used on offs in the past, I found a huge temperature range, i.e. 27-32 deg C at times, and it frustrated the hell out of me. I bought a pulse stat, and bingo, problem solved. It might help Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: newpythons set up. Reply with quote

I personally would change the bulb from a 'spot light' to a normal bulb so that the heat isn't thrown downwards quite so much. As you have a mat you want the bulb to heat up the air temps rather than provide a basking spot (which is what the mat should do).

Move the sensor on the probe to mid way along the cage, set it up so that the ambient temp is 86f at the probe point and then adjust the probe and thermostat on the mat to 90f. Stick the probe actually on the mat, careful not to allow the snake any contact with sticky tape etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

royalpython wrote:
i'd be a bit concerned when using heat matt's and leaving the probe on the side of the viv an inch or two higher than the newspaper/heat matt/surface temperature/substrate level. In my opinion this takes away the whole point of using a thermostat to control surface temperature. If you think of it another way....

the temperature on the heat matt will vary greatly if the probe sensor is trying to heat up the air of the vivarium rather than the surface temperature of the heat matt (where the snake rests). If this happens i'd have thought there'd be a risk of belly burns, because of this difference. I always place stat probes on the heat matt. This way the surface temperature can never rise above what the thermostat setting is. I don't see the point of having a heat matt probe heating air, when you already have a light bulb in there which helps with ambient temperatures greenphase?

I do the same as others with light bulbs. I use low watt bulbs to keep ambient temps up a little.

Not sure how to go about your predicament newpython. I don't like matt stats, perhaps you'd see a difference if you used a pulse stat. When ever i've used on offs in the past, I found a huge temperature range, i.e. 27-32 deg C at times, and it frustrated the hell out of me. I bought a pulse stat, and bingo, problem solved. It might help Smile

the probe you see half way up the wall above the mat. is for his bulb!!! 1000's use mat stats without any mishaps, i have both mat stats and pulse stats and cant really see any differance, although im sure there is.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynne wrote:
royalpython wrote:
i'd be a bit concerned when using heat matt's and leaving the probe on the side of the viv an inch or two higher than the newspaper/heat matt/surface temperature/substrate level. In my opinion this takes away the whole point of using a thermostat to control surface temperature. If you think of it another way....

the temperature on the heat matt will vary greatly if the probe sensor is trying to heat up the air of the vivarium rather than the surface temperature of the heat matt (where the snake rests). If this happens i'd have thought there'd be a risk of belly burns, because of this difference. I always place stat probes on the heat matt. This way the surface temperature can never rise above what the thermostat setting is. I don't see the point of having a heat matt probe heating air, when you already have a light bulb in there which helps with ambient temperatures greenphase?

I do the same as others with light bulbs. I use low watt bulbs to keep ambient temps up a little.

Not sure how to go about your predicament newpython. I don't like matt stats, perhaps you'd see a difference if you used a pulse stat. When ever i've used on offs in the past, I found a huge temperature range, i.e. 27-32 deg C at times, and it frustrated the hell out of me. I bought a pulse stat, and bingo, problem solved. It might help Smile

the probe you see half way up the wall above the mat. is for his bulb!!! 1000's use mat stats without any mishaps, i have both mat stats and pulse stats and cant really see any differance, although im sure there is.


I wasn't saying that to newpython, was directed at Greenphase (pay attention woman Razz Laughing )

Matt stats, are on off's... i've owned more than one, and i'm certain they all act the same way. I'd rather see someone with a matt stat than nothing, i'm just explaining the difference between them and pulse stats. Pulse stats keep a steady temperature. Newpython has another thread made, and he decribes exactly what i'm on about. So i explained a pulse will change those readings, and keep a steady temperature. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have mat stats and pulse stats. maybe i need to move bigger corns onto pulse stats!!!
see....i do pay attention! Laughing
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