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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Viv is a custom built one not a ready made one,having 2 x 8inch round vents in the sides and a mesh top i was informed this would be enough but if need be i can replace one of the doors with a mesh one.

I am having trouble with the powersun with regards to keeping the temps right,having just uprated to the 160watt i still find that the temp under the beam is 46ish but in the middle IE 18inch below the temp is 20-24 depending on the time of day and 1 inch above the bottom reads 18-20 again depends on time of day,

Have looked at the possibility of converting to 2 spots and a uvb tube but would this still maintain temp better and would 2 dimmers be required?

The substrate was something i hum-ed and ahh'd about but if it can cause probs it will be removed tonight.

1 last question is greens to feed,they do get gem lettuce leave along with the ficus itself but what is really best for them?

Thanks to those who have already replied and commented.

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Gary
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i maintain an ambient temperature using a ceramic heat lamp on a thermostat then you have the spots as basking areas, unfortunate that you had to find out the powersuns were not really suitable, like me! i know they are not cheap. I would get a 100watt basking lamp which will be compatible with the wiring from the powersun, just switch bulbs. You could create another basking area also, i did the same and got change from £20. Obviously you will need some sort of uvb output as well i think the smaller power compact units will be up to the job, at least that is what i am using and have experienced no ill effects. sorry for trying to change a few bits and bobs for you but it will make life easier in the long run!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is a great viv
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unbreakable wrote:
i maintain an ambient temperature using a ceramic heat lamp on a thermostat then you have the spots as basking areas, unfortunate that you had to find out the powersuns were not really suitable, like me! i know they are not cheap. I would get a 100watt basking lamp which will be compatible with the wiring from the powersun, just switch bulbs. You could create another basking area also, i did the same and got change from £20. Obviously you will need some sort of uvb output as well i think the smaller power compact units will be up to the job, at least that is what i am using and have experienced no ill effects. sorry for trying to change a few bits and bobs for you but it will make life easier in the long run!



No need to be sorry about anything,I'm here to learn and as long as it is better for the chams then expense don't come into it,i do have an Arcadia d3 compact that i bought but do think that the beam would be 2 narrow considering the width of the Viv (3ft)

Have thought about 2 spots one on permanently (100watt) then a second on a dimmer therm also 100 watt but with the sensor in the middle of the Viv and set this so ambient is 28 but i will wait to see what people recommend before i commit to the change.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ailurus wrote:
that is a great Viv



Thanks Tom

First try at Viv decorating,from the response's looks like i might have got
something right.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is a lovely viv we are just trying to make it better lol, erm my vivs are a lot smaller so i dont have a problem with making sure they get enough uvb, may be a case of getting two or investing in a reflector, also i would recommend it being no further than a foot from the chams to make sure they get the required amount, care full they do get fairly warm though. I remember Rick mentioning about the bark as well, i would recommend you bin it for many reasons, cleanliness, impaction, crickets hiding and ease of cleaning, it does look nice but it will give you more bother than its worth. Hopefully we are steering you towards a better and easier to care for environment for your chams and one that wont allow for many mistakes. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unbreakable wrote:
it is a lovely viv we are just trying to make it better lol,


This is what I'm aiming for,a better Viv that's right for them not me,
so i lose the Bark chippings,cut the misting but add a dripper for drinking,which should help keep the humidity down,currently at 60%

what should i be aiming for?

When i was a kid i was brought up in Aden where these chameleons were a daily sight,wish i had paid more attention to them then,might have helped me out now,albeit i was only 3 at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing set up!!!! as said lose the substrate Smile

You'll have fun cleaning that! but im sure you will do a great job!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again,

I wouldn't use a compact uv for a cham there has been some indication that the higher strength compacts may cause damage to herps. Suggest using a long uv/b tube housed in a reflector.

As for basking areas; all chams enjoy and need a bright light source they enjoy this, so for basking areas use a spot bulb tight beam or other, housed in a reflector dome mounted externally on top of the mesh, a twin channel dimmer stat can be used to operate two basking lamps. Set the basking areas approx 8-10 inches away from the bulbs, place the temp probe at the actual basking area. If the basking spots are placed off centre to the rear of the viv this will create a natural thermal gradient and you should achieve a lower ambient temp as required. I double check both basking area and ambient temps with two way in / out digital temp gauges. I never use any other heat source for any of my chams as long as the night time room temps dont go below approx 67f then no need.

If possible I would still increase the ventilation. Yemens really do need a lot of ventilation and the small circular vents dont really do the job for that species. As a minimum I would suggest; complete top of the viv meshed, as you already have, and at least one third of the lower front of the viv meshed, ( thats how my panther set ups are and they require less ventilation than Yemens) this allows hot air to rise out of the top and draw cool air in from the front lower section thus creating a good cross air flow. Even better to have more ventilation that that if possible. Lots of Yemen keepers use 100% mesh set ups. Sorry if I sound as thouhg I am being picky. Its great to see you want the best for your chams!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the tips,hopefully things will be changed for the better this weekend after i have ordered the equipment needed to put things right.

Gary
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