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gb I've settled in...
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 25 Location: northants
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: My new learning curve |
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Hi all,have recently set up a Viv for veiled chameleons.
The Viv is 3'x3'x1.5' made of glass with ventilation on the front,both sides and a mesh top,light and heat is provided by a zoomed 160watt power sun,misting is done automatically 6 times a day with a rain system and decoration is a mixture of real plant (ficus benjamina) and plastic/silk.
Hopefully i have provided them (i know this is a hot subject on here) with enough for them to feel secure and to stimulate them.
Feeding wise i feed Locusts mainly with some brown crickets and meal worms in bowls and an odd treat to wax worms.
Feel free to comment on anything you see be it good or bad as i am willing to listen and learn from more experienced keepers. |
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PaulG Captivebred Colonel

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 3996 Location: North West
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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That is f***ing amazing setup dude.
Them two in the pictures are not in the same setup are they?
There is a big size difference there
Best cham setup I have vere seen tho! _________________ Regards, Paul.
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gb I've settled in...
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 25 Location: northants
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Paul
Thanks for the comments,first attempt at decorating a Viv but hopefully they like it,
Yes they are both in the same Viv but the size difference ain't that great,it's just the zoom at different settings.
I know keeping pairs together has mixed opinions on here,but i have taken advice from a couple of well known specialist's,but i am willing to set up another Viv if things seem to be going wrong.
Gary |
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Young_Gun Captivebred Communist

Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 1420 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Mint lookin viv mate, nice yemens  _________________ MORE THAN 2! |
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PaulG Captivebred Colonel

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 3996 Location: North West
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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How old is the female?
You might not want her getting harrased all the time by the male, it may be too much for her if she is young.
I have nothing against housing a pair together, just be allert and
use ya common sense!
I am very impressed tho! _________________ Regards, Paul.
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aidan Captivebred Communist

Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 1882 Location: ESSEX
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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very nice setup
and nice Yemen's _________________
2.4. beardies
1.1 fire n uce beardies
1.1.0 yemen chameleons
0.0.1 corns
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rob1468 Contributing Member
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 85 Location: Barnstaple North Devon
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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A very nice roomy setup , we have looked at those viv s for our pair but were undecided as to the housing together as everyone seems to jump on you if you do , but in all honesty provided you have a couple of basking areas and plenty for them to hide in then i think its viable to do , what i would say is if for some reason they dont get on just get a screen of somesort and split the viv instead of setting another up (as long as they cant see each other with a screen they will be fine ) awesome setup mate
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mcfluffin CaptiveBred Addict!

Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 943
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Looks fantastic...sounds like a sensible approach to keeping a pair. Hopefully the female will be OK with the male on her back (to coin a phrase)  _________________
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unbreakable Key Member

Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 212
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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just a heads up, i have been using power sun bulbs for over a year now with no problems, however the owner of my local pet store done a test for the uvb output and found that after less than a foot the out put was very much insufficient, i have since stopped using mine and have reverted back to basking lamps and separate uvb bulbs. I have found that my chams are noticeably basking now and appetites and water intake have improved dramatically and they are also much more lively and responsive, which i presume is because of the basking. Hope this can be of some use to you.
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Rickeezee Site Moderator

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 9249 Location: Kent
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Nice looking set up, obviously you have worked hard at this well done.
However I would suggest not using any substrate due to potential impaction caused via ingestion. Most cham keepers dont use any substrate.
Yemens enjoy an arid and airy viv as they come from the Saudi region. If possible maximise ventilation I would suggest a minimum of 75% ventilation in the overall viv construction for Yemens.
Humidity levels for Yemen's need to be quite low (unlike panthers that require a higher level of humidity), so as long as the glass viv allows for this should be fine, otherwise be carefull, to much humidity may lead to respiratory tract infections, especially when combined with frequent misting and substrate that will hold moisture and create a damp environment that could lead to bacteria growth / mold etc. For my Yemens I only mist twice per day but use a water dripper system so they can drink as required.
I am not a fan of powersuns for chameleons, but prefer to use uv/b tubes (10% for Yemen's) and a basking lamp in a reflector dome controlled via a dimmer stat. Thats just my preference though as I can then gain greater control over the basking area and ambient temps.
Group housing is a controversial subject, quite a few posts about this on this section if you trawl back through the archives. _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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