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Scott W
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Males and females do go off their food at various times, and if there is no major weight loss then there's nothing to worry about (so long as they were good feeders previously).

I would tend to leave the snake alone as much as possible until it starts feeding again.

As for defrosting, I find that leaving a rodent overnight at room temp, then boosting the heat with a hair dryer etc for a few minutes is best. I'm not a fan of putting rodents in hot water to thaw (kinda makes me think they are being slightly cooked, which is why the skin sometimes breaks away).

Good luck and keep a close eye on it's weight.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he's a male then the time frame for the reluctant feeding falls into the normal pattern of a male who wants nooky! My male goes off his food from August till about March usually, will have the odd smaller meal but on the whole he's more interested in the ladies! Over the 5 months and 3 meals of large mice he lost a grand total of 43g with an initial weight of 765g he went down to 722g which is approximately 6% of his weight, its now 3 months later and he's upto 895g!

I have taken 6 months to get a cf started and just taken 6 months to convert 2 WC to taking defrost rodents!

I would weigh your little one and keep checking every 2 weeks. Have u thought about placing your royal in a smaller darker tub etc and feeding from there? I have found that sometimes works!

Anyway best of luck



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must agree with Peter's last post to you. I've fed my royal from the start in a separate but smaller plastic tank/viv......Never refused a feed plus he/she knows exactly why he/she is in there for.....please let us all know how you're doing....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PBroon wrote:
Fascinated by all this, and thanks so much for taking an interest, all of you. You're right, I haven't actually got proof that he's happy to be handled. He doesn't smile or giggle or anything. He just seems relaxed and content to hang around with whoever's handling him, and he's not jumpy, as I have seen him be occasionally. I think we'll start with the room-temperature thaw and hair dryer method, then go for the straw if that doesn't work. How long does a small rat/big mouse take to thaw

Should we be trying to find out what sex 'he' is? Someone somewhere suggested that he might be off his food because he's going through p
uberty.


One of the key ways a Regius show stress is to go off feed. So even though you've a tame little snake, give it a week or better still 2 from handling. Dan's method sounds fantastic- even a mature snake should be back on feed for this time of year. Best Wishes- Deb
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my royal went for 8 months without eating once! no major weight loss and eventually he just changed his mind and ate, cant explain how happy i was!

have you tried warming the mouse? (mght have been asked already)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried different methods. Mostly my bigger guy can be a little fussy. He likes his defrosted in warm water with the rat in a freezer bag keeping it dry. I have used a chicken oxo to get him going again. Simply broke up the oxo cube, dusted the nose of the rat in it and bam! no looking back since. Also with him, he sometimes finds bigger rats a bit intimidating. I have to hold the prey by the fur on the back to make it look smaller. He won't have anything biger than a weaner anyway.

The larger female I have just eats whether its left over night or defrosted in water, wet or dry. Pig she is.

My new one has only fed once so far, so i'm working on it with her.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incidentally, ghana, my male, has just tucked away two weaners since i've been catching up on the posts.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
Crazy as this sounds getting him/her feeding may not be a concern.

Has it (excuse the term "it" please) lost lots of weight?

Royals have a tendency to do this and there are 2 schools of thought. You can treat it like the animal it is OR you can ignore all natural tendencies.

If i were you i'd probably fill the viv with hay from top to bottom so you can't see anything but hay. Then leave well alone, change the water as normal but that's it. Then in 2 weeks warm a prey item and leave it in the viv somewhere near the end of one of the tunnels (it will create tunnels in the hay) and see how you go.
can you tell me about this, i have never heard of it so have never tried it!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vixen wrote:
Dan wrote:
Crazy as this sounds getting him/her feeding may not be a concern.

Has it (excuse the term "it" please) lost lots of weight?

Royals have a tendency to do this and there are 2 schools of thought. You can treat it like the animal it is OR you can ignore all natural tendencies.

If i were you i'd probably fill the viv with hay from top to bottom so you can't see anything but hay. Then leave well alone, change the water as normal but that's it. Then in 2 weeks warm a prey item and leave it in the viv somewhere near the end of one of the tunnels (it will create tunnels in the hay) and see how you go.
can you tell me about this, i have never heard of it so have never tried it!!!





see where your coming from dan, but sounds a bit messy using hay , i have used the same trick using news paper with quite good results over the years . was told about the bury techinque from a U.S breeder tried it and it worked well . still use it to this day .
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh the newspaper trick, only with hay! right! know it now.
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