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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a trio of them Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent...are Rhampholeon Brevicaudatus by any chance?

I think it is also a good idea to know who keeps what because (if anyone's interested) we can all swap breeding animals to keep those bloodlines as mixed as possible. Does anyone else think that makes sense? I know there are databases for this sort of thing(and I think Rick is trying to set one up)....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good to me. it's def something i would be interested in.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcfluffin wrote:
Excellent...are Rhampholeon Brevicaudatus by any chance?

I think it is also a good idea to know who keeps what because (if anyone's interested) we can all swap breeding animals to keep those bloodlines as mixed as possible. Does anyone else think that makes sense? I know there are databases for this sort of thing(and I think Rick is trying to set one up)....


I gave up on the database idea due to lack of interest from other breeders, in all fairness though it was not widely advertised at all. It makes sense to me to try and keep bloodlines pure, especially when there may only be a few of a certain species in circulation as interbreeding is bound to occur along the line. Example, a few ankaramy chams are now in the UK but mainly from just one source maybe two sources in Europe, recent ones that have come into the UK I am on about. So the gene pool is extremely limited. When thye have matured and been bred and are up for sale from the various owners how will folk know the various sellers babies will be unrelated? Obtaining one from one source and another from somewhere else will not be a guarantee of unrelated at all. Pot luck. Unless the breeder has obtained proven unrelated in the first place.

Good luck with your pygs Jo.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rick. I;ve always thought it was a great idea. R.breviicaudatus are pretty widespread luckily, so there's more chance of another source being from a different lineage...I would certainly like to mix my group with another source...with more rare cham species I think it is essential to prevent a nasty genetic bottleneck! (not just a good idea) The problem as you said is advertising it in the right places (and getting people interested in the first place)...

I also think that getting more cham keepers to meet up to swap animals is great because we can all swap experiences on those particular species....I'd very much like to meet a load of cham breeders, because I find I gain a huge amount from other people's knowledge (I'm like a chameleon breeder parasite Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, like most things good in theory but in practical application a different ball game for many reasons. Perhaps a cham owners club, with a newsletter and secret handshake Laughing

Seriously though would be great to see some progress in the UK as regards UK home grown and breed chameleons. But we have this forum to share our experiences and out of all the forums this one does seem to have quite an active chameleon section. I think your average cham keeper is more than happy to share their experiences and knowledge, but dare I say it would the private commercial breeders feel the same way?

In reality the easiest media for accessing and sharing information is up to this point forums such as Captive Bred. There are a few private breeders of chams out there who just dont / wont post on forums. Fair play we all have free choice.
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