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The Medusan
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bazzer wrote:
So what are people averaging as a cold end temperature?

Doesn't it affect your snake feeding when you have a cold end too cold.


Bazzer

A snake (or any reptile for that matter) can't generate heat of its own accord. It has to absorb heat from an external source. This absorbed heat is then dispelled according to its surroundings. In effect, therefore, it is not possible to provide a perfect "ambient" temperature for a snake as it is not biologically set up that way (a mammal has a constant body temperature, a reptile does not). Instead you need to provide a consistent heat source from which it can draw heat (i.e energy). Think of it this way - when you fill up your car with petrol you have a certain range you can travel before you need to visit the petrol station again. That's what it's like for a snake, it takes as much heat as it can store and, when it gets cold, it revisits its heat source to "top up". Your snakes will determine how much heat they need (this is called thermoregulation) so you should have no fear of them getting too cold.

Hope this helps,

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting way of putting it Dave. thanks for that.

anyway, what I have done, is shifted my heat mat ever so slightly nearer the cool end and it seems to be working well. So now i have a warm end with temps inside the hide at about 94f and cool end ambient temps vary between 77f and 80f. No heat mat being used on the cool end.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Bazzar

Sounds like a perfect set up to me. Good luck with it and let us know how things pan out!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Dave,

yeah all seems to be going real well. Been off all day today, so spent a bit of time monitoring them. Always nerve racking when you change a set up. They were in Viv's for a while and I got used to that, so when I moved to tubs I was worried about the temperatures. Only wish i'd done it sooner as its not too difficult keeping the temps right and above all the snakes feel warmer. I've been noticing them thermoregulating themselves more since they went into tubs. Is that normal? When they were in the Viv's they seemed to hang out in the cool end a lot more. I've got one girl in a Viv still, but i'm hoping to get a rack in the next couple of months, about 5 tubs high.

More money to spend on snakes (and if Pieblad is out there..that means cash for you. lol)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Bazzer

I used to keep my all my snakes in vivs but since I moved to a rack system I've noticed a huge difference - the snakes seem so much happier (i.e. less stressed) and the consistent "climate" is so much easier to maintain. As for keeping them clean, that's become a doddle! I had my first year of breeding last year and got a 95% success rate from my viable females.

Good luck with the the new set up - it sounds as if you've made a shrewd move which hopefully will pay dividends in the near future!

Now go for that Pied!!!

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