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PaulG
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
vixen wrote:
what off paul?.....siblings or ugly humans? Laughing


You call me a child? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
who???? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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who???? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
oh i never did!!!! i was pointing out guys that sibling means bro or sister off....i just took it for granted thats what it meant here.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The EggMan wrote:
SmallPaul wrote:
The EggMan wrote:
Do you have to argue with everything I say?


Im not argueing everything you say,
I am just stating that there has been a proven line...


Paul the point I was making was that a there is a lot of confusion surrounding granites.
Picking out the one part of my post that you believe you can disprove does not lend to this thread in any way.



All I did was state that there are a couple of proven lines.

But yes sibs from dom/co-dom morphs are normal.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
When I eventually breed my spider (1350grms to go), I would find it natural to advertise the normals as siblings to spiders it just gives them some history, e.g. not CF etc. To me its just letting people know where they are from.
E.G. 66% het for albino, siblings to albino male for sale, helps people understand better what they are looking at or thinking of buying.
But it would do no harm to clarify as some people(non herpers) may think sibling is better for some reason than plain old royal.
Because I know what sibling means, I look upon it as an aid to where the animal has come from??
If someone was selling pastels and normal baby females and did not say sibling, i would ask; are the normals, CB, CF etc I would want to know the history.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mike h wrote:
When I eventually breed my spider (1350grms to go), I would find it natural to advertise the normals as siblings to spiders it just gives them some history, e.g. not CF etc. To me its just letting people know where they are from.
E.G. 66% het for albino, siblings to albino male for sale, helps people understand better what they are looking at or thinking of buying.
But it would do no harm to clarify as some people(non herpers) may think sibling is better for some reason than plain old royal.
Because I know what sibling means, I look upon it as an aid to where the animal has come from??
If someone was selling pastels and normal baby females and did not say sibling, i would ask; are the normals, CB, CF etc I would want to know the history.

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ah. i get it now!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mike I can certainly see where you are coming from, and yes that could make sense IF the 'siblings' were sold at the price of a normal. I have seen them sold at double the price of normals, which is why I questioned it in the first place. Thankyou for your comments though, if sold at the correct price but with extra information - great Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The EggMan wrote:
I dont really agree, CB animals are sold as CB07's. Therefor you know they came from two captive bred parents - whether or not one of them was a morph doesnt give you any additional information. imo.


It may give you extra information, or make you more/less likely to buy the animal. For example, if I was looking for a normal female to eventually be mated to a pastel male, then while I'd be happy with any nice bright CB female, I'd be more inclined to buy a nice bright CB normal from an excellent quality pastel parent as I feel she'd be more likely to produce good quality pastels.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The whole 'sibling spider' thing came about probably because people didn't understand the genetics of the co-dom morphs, so they were almost sold as unproven hets. This is obviously wrong and most people know that siblings are no more special than any random non morph python.

Unfortunately some people are now using the term 'sibling' Spider/Pastel as a way to pretend there is an increased value in that animal based on it's brothers or sisters. This is not the case, although of course there is nothing wrong with raising the price on any 'extra nice' baby that stands out a little but of course it wouldn't matter if they were from normal adults or Mojaves.
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