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Killer Bee genetics

 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Killer Bee genetics Reply with quote

Looking at web sites I have found that the way to get a Killer Bee is to initially cross a Pastel with a Spider thereby making a Bumble Bee, and then cross the Bumble back to the Pastel.

Question Would the final result be the same - a Killer Bee - if a Super Pastel was crossed with a Spider ? Just seems that if a Super Pastel is available, big if.... , it would be quicker. But would it work ?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you crossed a a Super Pastel with Spider you will end up getting 50% Bumble Bees and 50% Spiders to get a a killer bee you need both the parents to have the Pastel gene Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant, many thanks for that info. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good12 wrote:
if you crossed a a Super Pastel with Spider you will end up getting 50% Bumble Bees and 50% Spiders to get a a killer bee you need both the parents to have the Pastel gene Very Happy

Louis


Actually, if you crossed a Super Pastel to a Spider, you'd (theoretically) get 50% Bumblebees & 50% Pastels, since the Super Pastel is homozygous and can only pass along a Pastel allele to its offspring. So, Bees & Pastels would be the result...the # of Bees you get just depends on where the Spider allele is also passed along.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KLG wrote:
good12 wrote:
if you crossed a a Super Pastel with Spider you will end up getting 50% Bumble Bees and 50% Spiders to get a a killer bee you need both the parents to have the Pastel gene Very Happy

Louis


Actually, if you crossed a Super Pastel to a Spider, you'd (theoretically) get 50% Bumblebees & 50% Pastels, since the Super Pastel is homozygous and can only pass along a Pastel allele to its offspring. So, Bees & Pastels would be the result...the # of Bees you get just depends on where the Spider allele is also passed along.

HTH!

K~


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou both very much. You have both answered my question as to whether or not I can take a short cut to get a Killer Bee, and the answer is no..... !! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

correct !

hopefully I am about 700 g ( minimum ) from some Killers ) Graz' Past' x B'Bee ) ...ah well just means she ( Bee ) should hopefully be ore than 1500g when 08 season starts ! waiting is a ' killer ' in its self !
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