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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks phot0 shopped to me..just a bit of selective colouring.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott has one too..lol

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Eggman wrote:
Its no photoshopped stu, but that one is! Laughing

cokacola, royals like this have been produced many times over the years, and all of them have reverted back to their original colours and not proved genetic. as someone said its most likely something to do with shedding and pigmentation.
if its an IMG then it could be genetic but it doesnt look like one.


I'm well aware of that, my appologies, I thought you were talking about this example specifically.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Eggman wrote:
I am, this example is like any other.
A Paradox is not any royal that changes colour. A Paradox is a morph that developes patches of "normal" colouration on its body, but is always born with it to some degree.

An animal born normal is normal, and does not change into anything else. And there's no such thing as a paradox normal.


Yes, but if this example is like any other, then you are not talking about this example specifically. When you said that you'd seen it before and it was never proven, I thought you were talking about this particular snake rather than this weird phenomenon, which resulted in me questioning.

I agree with you that this is probably something that has not yet been proven as genetic.

Regarding what a Paradox actually is, I too have shared your understanding of the word: A ball python which has random patches of unexpected colouration like an Albino with black pigment patches for instance.

In my collection at the moment, I have a Het Albino which is a sibling to a Reverse Paradox Albino. A normal snake, which has patches of white in several places.

However there seems to be another understanding of the word, here is a quote from the Markus Jayne website:

"Paradox - What the heck is going on here? These balls are hatched out as normals and just after they are a year old they change color after a shed. They look half normal and half Axanthic! The jury is still out on these guys and I can't say whether they are genetic or not. To date all the specimens that exist originated as captive hatched baby's from Africa. Time will tell on these mystery snakes. A Spider is my choice for this female".

Hence me mentioning "paradox" because that ^ pretty much sums up the snake in question.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="CokaCola"]
The Eggman wrote:
I am, this example is like any other.
A Paradox is not any royal that changes colour. A Paradox is a morph that developes patches of "normal" colouration on its body, but is always born with it to some degree.

An animal born normal is normal, and does not change into anything else. And there's no such thing as a paradox normal.


Yes, but if this example is like any other, then you are not talking about this example specifically. When you said that you'd seen it before and it was never proven, I thought you were talking about this particular snake rather than this weird phenomenon, which resulted in me questioning. I appoloise for me reading it quickly lol

I agree with you that this is probably something that has not yet been proven as genetic.

Regarding what a Paradox actually is, I too have shared your understanding of the word: A ball python which has random patches of unexpected colouration like an Albino with black pigment patches for instance.

In my collection at the moment, I have a Het Albino which is a sibling to a Reverse Paradox Albino. A normal snake, which has patches of white in several places.

However there seems to be another understanding of the word, here is a quote from the Markus Jayne website:

"Paradox - What the heck is going on here? These balls are hatched out as normals and just after they are a year old they change color after a shed. They look half normal and half Axanthic! The jury is still out on these guys and I can't say whether they are genetic or not. To date all the specimens that exist originated as captive hatched baby's from Africa. Time will tell on these mystery snakes. A Spider is my choice for this female".

Hence me mentioning "paradox" because that ^ pretty much sums up the snake in question.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleugh, double post - basically sorry eggman, i read too quickly lol
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