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Ally · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: Question about eye colours...

I'm not good at genetics - so just wondered if this means anything...

I have recently met a Leopard Gecko with a completely black eye. The other has very feint silver markings, but the right one has nothing. Held him up to the light - nothing there at all.
He has a good yellow background colour, and his spots are a chocolate brown rather than black.
I know nothing at all about his parentage.

Is it anything interesting? Worth breeding him to see what happens?

Cheers!

Ally

jamie_s · Site Moderator Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 1963

sounds interesting ally,can you get a pic of the eye?
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Ally · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:00 am Post subject:

Shall do! It will be Tuesday now though...
Watch this space...

Just A Beginner · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:17 am Post subject:

I'm pretty sure its called 'eclipse', but I have no idea what heterozygous genetic gems it could hint at...

the gene is what makes an APTOR a RAPTOR, any chance this leo is from a RAPTOR breeding project?
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Ally · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:55 am Post subject:

He is an abandoned pet... that was dumped on a friend who keeps various animals, but she can't get hold/afford to get crickets regularly, so he ended up in my care...
Neither of us have any idea where he came from I'm afraid.
It's a bit of a sad story really (he also has a pretty bad regrown tail), it would be really nice if he turned out to be something funky!

Ally · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:

Ok...
One full body shot, one of the silvery eye and two views of the black eye.
Hope it helps!

Ally · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: .

the other pic

cjreptiles · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject:

The black eye is what is. referred to as an 'eclipse' eye, and they are fairly valuable. As for the silvery eye, not really seen anything like it before - can it see out of that eye?

Ally · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject:

His aim at crickets is perfect - on both sides!

So, what would be the best wasy of dealing with it in breeding terms?
I have no idea if he carries any other colours, but have access to a lot of potential breeding partners for him...

Does any one know of any good websites to check out for eye-genetics info? I've had a hunt on Google, but can't find much...

Thanks!

Lottiz · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject:

Hi!
Very nice eyes, I really loooove black eyes.
Patternless red stripes are conportable with eclipse and can produce black eye or snake eye offsprings!

More info taken from GeckoForums.net:

"Eclipse" and Albino-Eclipse have been produced from two "Patternless Red Stripe" geckos, both Kelli and Alberto have hatched them. They also hatched them from RAPTOR X PRS. I bred my APTOR "het" RAPTOR to my PRS and hatched ONLY PRS and Reverse Stripes. I only hatched a few so no black/red eyes. This is the same thing that happens with the APTOR/RAPTOR project geckos. So...

...the "APTOR" (which is "het" for RAPTOR) and the "Patternless Red Stripes" we created are exactly the same thing. Reverse Stripes, Stripes, etc, can produce the Patternless morph, and from there is where you get the Eclipse morph. It is surely a combination of things. Seems like it goes in this order as far as the way the patterns are linked, one may be the "super" form of the next. Jungle>.Stripe>.Reverse>.Patternless>.Eclipse"

This is a PRS, my "Diva", and I got offsprings Diva+Axe(Aptor). I hope they can bring som snake eye or black eye, but I'm not sure...normal eyes:

the aptor male, Axe, normal albino eyes.

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