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Ailurus · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: checkered garters

i may be getting a pair of checkered garters in the next few months, a normal male and an albino female.

If i bred them will i get any albino babies or will i have to mate the female with one of the babies?

also what size viv will they need as adults?

How many babies do they have?

What do the babies eat? same as adults (pinkies)?
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Stuart · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

The babies will all be het for albino so yes you will need to breed one of the babies back to the female or find another het albino male.
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FatBoy · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:48 am Post subject:

I was under the impression that if one parent was visual albino, then you have a chance of some visual neos, along with some normals and some hets!?!?

Vivarium size is specific to how many garters you want to house together. A 4ft x 2ft x 1.5ft would do 1 male and 3 females. For just the 2, I would use a 3ft x 2ft x 1.5ft .

They have litters of around 12 neonates.

If you can't get the neos straight on to rodent pray, then try small earthworm, slugs, guppies, tadpoles and on occasion I've even had them take crickets. As for adults, they shouldn't be on pinkies at that size. Try to at least get them on to a medium mouse every 8-9 days or so.

Best of luck with them mate, garters are great wee snakes.
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Scott W · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:02 am Post subject:

normal to albino (which is a recessive gene) will result in 100% het for albino, only Co-Dom genes will produce visuals in the first breeding.
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FatBoy · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:08 am Post subject:

Cheers for that Scott. Must go and read up on genetics some more. Embarassed

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Ailurus · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject:

sorry i do not do colour morphs really. Het stands for heterozygous doesn't it? which is when they carry 2 sets of different genes?

is there no way you can get any albino babies?
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Female Albino checkered garter. Also got a male for when time comes i can breed them

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arborealad · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:

As stuart and scott have both said you will have hets for albino, however here is an easy way of working it out in the future if you didnt know the method already. You can substitute any genes into the square to work out any potential offspring of any morph.

Although i dont know myself how it works for multiple het morphs Embarassed

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MJ · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

ah ha ! thats how a punit works Laughing

Nice to see garters! good luck with them mate Cool

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