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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Mating Weights? Reply with quote

Just curious what's the lowest weight anyone has bred a male at, and had fertile eggs?

I have a small albino male, I'm guessing under 450g's and he's been mating albinos and hets for the last 7 days.

I have heard several accounts of males that are less than a year old breeding and fertilising eggs, youngest being 4 months old (although I don't know what the weight was).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if hes doing the job i would say hes ready for it

good luck Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the general feeling on this topic is that, younger and lighter males can and will breed at the weight and age you stated, but there is less chance of successful fertilisation. Males generally breed consistently at 800+ Grams. Therefore I think that males breeding at less than 800 Grams sucessfully is the exception to the rule. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I weighed him last night, 446 grams.

He hasn't fed since September either, so I guess he would be nearer the 600g's if he had good body weight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always seen it as 600-800g is the average on successful matings but you never know i guess until you try, as for sperm plugs well learnt my new interesting fact the other day that in fact they aren't actually sperm at all and are no indicator of whether a male is fit to breed or not just shed skins of the hemipenes or something on those lines.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quite possibly lol - just whats written in the VPI book
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rachel132002 wrote:
quite possibly lol - just whats written in the VPI book


I read the same thing...it threw me a bit too Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: sperm plugs Reply with quote

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LoL. I think a lot of rather large american breeders who have MANY years of breeding royals under their belts would disagree with that statement.


Wouldn't be the first time that something people always assumed to be A turned out to be B. Has anyone really checked that these things are sperm plugs and not hemipenal sheds? I wouldn't be surprised of they are because sometimes you see nice sheds with parts from within the snake, sometimes not. And that has to come out at some point.
Funny thing is garters USE sperm plugs. After the male fertilizes the female he puts in a plug to stop others getting access and maybe also to keep the sperm in. So actually if you find a plug in a garter it may be a female Razz
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v267/n5609/abs/267345a0.html
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