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albob
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: new toad not eating Reply with quote

i got 4 asian black spined toads 9 days ago and only a couple of crickets have been eaten, my temp humidity etc are all spot on there is nothing in there that shouldnot be in there, have other people found new amphibs or any other critter for that matter to take a while to start eating, by the way they do look in great condition, i have been told y others not to worry yet but i cant help it
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how many crickets did u put in there with them? unless its a big frog or toad i rarely see them eat...

try bean weavils they seem to get a huge feeding responce i think ricks reptiles sell them.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is often the way whilst amphibians are acclimating. Do they feel secure enough to feed? ie not exposed. Also, try them with other foods. Locust hoppers, curly wing flies, or wax worms. Are the crickets of the right size? Try a smaller stage perhaps. I don`t know how big the toads are that you have, but smaller prey is often prefferred over larger prey. Larger, fast moving prey can be intimidating and stress anurans out. Don`t put too many in at once either. Small locust hoppers are far less agile and tend to stimulate a response that other feeder insects fail to. There`s a few things to try, hope it helps.Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJ wrote:
how many crickets did u put in there with them? unless its a big frog or toad i rarely see them eat...

try bean weavils they seem to get a huge feeding responce i think ricks reptiles sell them.



Yep, another feeder insect that most anurans seem to enjoy. they don`t half make some comical faces when they swallow them though. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a large 4foot tank they have loads of hiding places,they are aprox 7cms and the crickets were med i tried to pick the smallest, iv also had a go with mealworm and earthworm, they have def started to look more relaxed as time goes on venturing a bit further and a couple of crickets have def been eaten, the place i got them from has 4 more and they are eating well although mine had extra travel time to them, as a newbie im probably panicking but as im sure the same with you all we want our critters to be comfy.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For sure, try them with some small locust hoppers though, and I bet they eat them in front of you. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also you could try to cover the sides of the viv mate to make them feel not that exposed Smile And like others have said try other feeders Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the info sorry it took a while to respond having probs with my computor, ill order some now would you say there is a time limit on when to worry or just when they start loseing weight, 3 sides are covered, apreciate everybodys help
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I agree with all the posts so far, I have had frogs and toads that when I first got them were hesitant to feed, and others that fed straight away. Some that are just fussy to at times!

I suggest also that you contact the seller and find out exactly how long they had had them and what they had been fed on, might be worth finding out if the seller had just got them in and is selling them on or had had them for a while and had observed them eating? Also their source such as captive bred or captive farmed or wild caught. This will have an impact on their feeding regime, in terms of the food they have been given and or been catching themselves. I know recently that a large shipment has entered the country of various CF and WC herps and amphibians. May also be worth asking the quarentine period that thye have been through if applicable to ensure that thye are all healthy and feeding well.

May I ask where they came from please?

I can supply bean weevils as Paul stated. But I would also try all of the other foods as mentioned, may I suggest getting a small supply of each from your local rep shop to try them out and see what works best. Good luck and keep us up to date!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe they are wlid caught the breeder i got them of got them off his supplier the day befor he sent them to me, he is keeping them at the same temps and everything as me but he says the ones he has left are eating very well, as for quarantine im not sure i went strait and ordered some small hoppers last night iv already tried crickets meal and earth worms,
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