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Scott W
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: Gut Loading. Reply with quote

I'm often asked what I gut load my insects on before feeding, so here's a run down...

Crickets, I keep my feeder crickets in large tubs (80litre) and have a layer of turkey rearing pellets, also slices of wholemeal bread, for water I use half oranges.

My locust are fed the day they are harvested from my breeding colony, so already have full stomachs, the colony is fed on Spring Greens and Bran.

Mealworms are fed on dog biscuit and water.

If I buy crickets in, I try to keep them 2 days to allow them to 'fatten up' before I use them.

I tend to breed most of my foods as I'm currently using 7000 - 12000 crickets per week, 1000 - 1500 5th's locust, plus about 800 - 1400 pinks / fluffs and hoppers per week, obviously this would cost far too much to buy each week Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I bred crickets I fed them on trout pellets for food and sliced potato for water, seemed to do quite well on this. I've heard of people going to extraordinary lengths to gut load with sliced carrot and a whole variety of foods but I don't think it really makes that much different as long as they've got the weight there in the first place Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

romaine/kos lettuce for locusts

fish flake and romaine lettuce for baby crix

(lettuce is misted)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stroudster wrote:
I've heard of people going to extraordinary lengths to gut load with sliced carrot and a whole variety of foods but I don't think it really makes that much different as long as they've got the weight there in the first place Wink


Think of a cricket as a sandwich its what you put in it that counts.In the wild a lizard would eat loads of different insects which in turn eat loads of different plants,fruits,etc so the lizard would gain the whole range of vits and minerals.As for carrots, i give them,they dont mold quickly and they are an excellent source of Vitamin A and contain other vitamins,calcium,phosphorus,I blend up my own cricket diet with loads of stuff, layers mash,sunflower seeds,mixed nuts,bee pollen,dried beans,etc,etc.Doesnt take long to shove it all in a blender then keep it in a sealed tupperware container.May seem a bit over the top to some but i can only see it being beneficial to the lizard,especially to laying females. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that sounds like a real good mix Jas, any chance of sharing the full list etc?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really use any fixed recipe.But with very few ingrediants you can virtually cover all the vitamins and minerals.It wouldnt hurt to grow some Parsley in the garden to throw in, this is an excellent source of Vit A,C,K
Sunflower seeds are good all rounders and high in E.Wheat germ or whole grains cover most of the B vitamins and Amino acids.And all these ingrediants are reall cheap to buy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont know if ayone is interested but i have a list somewhere of the vit min levels in a load of different veg? iif you think it would be usefull ill try and get it scanned this week,

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonie wrote:
dont know if ayone is interested but i have a list somewhere of the vit min levels in a load of different veg? iif you think it would be usefull ill try and get it scanned this week,

leo


certainly would be good, look forward to seeing it, thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Feeding roaches. Reply with quote

Hi, Dave @ Insects Unlimited & I breed roaches to sell as feeders & mine all get a varied diet of fruit/veg (rotated),either wheatbran,porridge oats or popcorn (always available),raisins (ditto) & dried cat food (ditto). If using dried cat food...Avoid fish flavours.If extra calcium is required... Powdered milk is ideal sprinkled in bran or porridge oats. As omnivours, try roaches with whatever you think fit (but nothing with fish in). Dave
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bee pollen is excellent for gut loading unfortunately i dont have the room to breed my own food but I am about to get some roaches to suppliment with and will be offering them allsorts of vegitable matter and the odd bits of meat but I will also be getting some bee pollen to to throw into the mix as its somthing ive been meaning to do for some time not but keep forgetting to order it
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