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hogboy · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: A couple of Asian Rats from Hamm

Heres a couple of pics of my T+ and T- Taeniura from Hamm
First up T+
second T-
They are Mocquardi, so stay real small.
Hope you like em

hogboy · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject:

Pics are back to front, T- first T+ second. Embarassed

Stuart · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject:

very nice Ian.
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peaches · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject:

They are lovely Very Happy

But can you explain the T- and T+ thing? Does this refer to the level of albanism? Embarassed

hogboy · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject:

Dan · Captivebred Communist Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 1306

Tyrosinase is the stuff that produces melanin.

Basically an amelanistic snake has no melanin. This can be because the snake produces no tyrosinase which often leaves the animal with a much darker (often brownish) colouration. These are the least common forms of amelanism as for some reason the mutation that causes this occurs at a different point within the DNA strand.
"Normal" amelanastic (ie amel corns) snakes produce no melanin and no tyrosinase leaving them with no dark colouration at all. These are the true albinos.

This is why all albinos are amels but not all amels are albinos.

Just as a point of interest, it is still VERY expensive to test for tyrosinase so while it is safe to assume that this label is correct the reality is we don't know for sure. To my knowledge no-one has ever tested any reptillian species for tyrosinase.
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sidnake · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject:

Tyrosinase- Means no Tyrosinase is produce the positives produce Tyrosinase but for some reason it is covered over/cant be seen

Scott W · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:30 am Post subject:

they are stunning Ian, seeing everyone's animals they bought is making me wish I actually bought some now Sad

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peaches · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:55 am Post subject:

Aah T- lighter, T+ duller....got it (I think lol Laughing

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They are certainly different, wasn't until recently that I realised they was amel forms of Tais, I take it you will be breeding these in the future? Will be very interesting to see what mixed variations there could be Idea

hogboy · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:07 am Post subject:

They're proven breeders, so will have eggs next year.
The guy i got the T+'s from also had lavenders, Snows, anytheristics and
used to produce calicos, but said nobody wanted them.