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_dave_
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Ok ive finally understood how the 100% het business works thanks to garysumpter 
but one question that i would like to ask
could i breed a male 100% het piebald, with a female 100% het albino..
and hopefully have yellow splashed piebalds as babys (a wish that is)
would this combination work? |
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Scott W
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100% het pied x 100% het albino will produce ALL normal looking babies.
Technically the babies should be
25% normal NOT het for anything
25% normal HET for pied
25% normal HET for albino
25% normal het for Albino Pied
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_dave_
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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eek bit confused still on that
what would i need to buy then to get a perfect pied morph with splashes of yellow?
obviously still a bit confused with this het business
full explanations would be ideal lol 
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| so basically it would be better to say have 2 seperate 100% het pieds, and 2 100% het albinos, make the babies into proper pieds / albino, then mate along the line? |
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_dave_
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or would 2 100% het pieds, make a pied baby? or more than one?
im trying to do what ballmorph has achieved, any help appreciated |
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_dave_
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or would 2 100% het pieds, make a pied baby? or more than one?
im trying to do what ballmorph has achieved, any help appreciated
p.s. sorry for posting about different snakes i.e. burm and ETB, i will be getting a burm soon, and im enquiring about 100% hets as i would like some in a while |
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kronin
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| _dave_ wrote: | | so basically it would be better to say have 2 seperate 100% het pieds, and 2 100% het albinos, make the babies into proper pieds / albino, then mate along the line? |
Basically yes, (somebody tell me if i'm wrong!) but I don't think you're going to get very far unless you have pieds and albinos to start with - expensive eh?
Have a read here and draw yourself up a punnett square, that should make things clearer (as mentioned on that site though, a punnett square only provides results for a perfect scenario its not for definate!).
In an ideal world, breeding 2 x het pieds would result in:
25% of the clutch would be normals
50% of the clutch would be het pieds
25% of the clutch would be pieds
Thats the theoretical outcome using a punnetts sqaure. Because the het pieds and the normals look the same they would all be classed as 66% het pieds. (100% het pieds come from breeding a het pied with a "real" pied, we know that there are no "normals" in the clutch so the babies that look normal are guaranteed het piebalds, hence the 100%).
As I say have a read through that link and it should make things a bit more clearer. All of this is new to me too so if any of the above is incorrect somebody please step in and tell us, else i'll be very  making myself out to be a smartarse!
Good luck with whatever route you take anyway Dave! |
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Scott W
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| _dave_ wrote: | eek bit confused still on that
what would i need to buy then to get a perfect pied morph with splashes of yellow?
obviously still a bit confused with this het business
full explanations would be ideal lol
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Not too sure what morph you are trying to create? An albino Pied or a nice pied with good yellow/orange?
Ballmorphs pieds are standard pieds, all baby pieds look fantastic with the orange really strong, as they mature they lose that 'pastel' type colouring and look more normal.
This is a normal Pied, young adult male
This is an Albino Pied
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_dave_
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would love to create an albino pied
thanks for the link opening now!
it will be expensive, but i will save up for 2 100% het pieds, then in 3 yrs (or however old they have to be to breed) will put them in to breed and then possibly keep a visual if i do get one out of the 25%, then mate it with another 100% het or if i can find a visual albino.. or 100% het albino?
expensive and confusing stuff but im sure with a bit more reading ill understand it all soon
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kronin
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That albino pied is very nice 
You never know you could breed those two 100% hets and get an entire clutch of pieds!
CPR have CB06 het pieds for sale, £1195 - bargain!
I've been looking to get a pair of het albinos myself so look me up in 3 years and we'll split custody of the babies they make  |
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