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[mike h]

Unusual Question
Most CF royals arrive about the same time as CB royals? CB being obviously far superior. I have bean told the figures for imported CF were 10,000 into this country this year don't quote me on figures, second hand.
IS it O.K. to cool and breed royals from say the beginning of January(instead of October) so that the babies are a few months behind the CF onslaught and we have a better chance of selling them at a fair price and not in competition with the unfortunate pet shop fodder. any advice as always appreciated.
thanks
mike

[Scott W]

CF tend to be a lot earlier than CB, with CF being available from mid April to end of April. Captive bred only seem to start laying at about that time with eggs still hatching even now.


To compete with CF (which I personally think can be excellent quality & condition, if bought from responsible importers) you should hold them back and grow them a little and 100% guarantee they are defrost feeders. You can never really compete price wise, with some CF ending up at public available prices of £20 but these are the ones that tend to be unfed, bulk housed and will present problems for the new keeper.

Why not go the other way and bring your breeding season forward? producing the FIRST cb babies of the year is far more marketable than producing the last
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[mike h]

Point taken that CF can be fantastic quality. I have looked at some of yours(on this forum) and others cf wc and they are obviously can be as good as CB.
I apoolgise for griping in the way I started this subject.
Back to the question.
Can I choose when to breed them within reason. If they dont stop feeding naturally, I may start cooling end of november beginning of december, so 2 months later than is often stated. Does anyone see any problems with this? My motive for this is to get a little bit more weight on my females.
Any advice
mike

[Scott W]

You can pretty much change the season to whatever you like, obviously the further from the natural season the longer the change will take to settle in.

It seems to me that captive bred ball pythons are later because most people try to keep them feeding to get the size on, exactly as you would like. Obviously the only way to break that cycle is to skip a year of breeding, therefore you would have nice big females and can begin cooling etc as early as you wish. Now that's great if you re breeding normals but if morphs are involved then most people would like to get 'a return' as quick as possible.

Don't worry about the CF comments, overall people are right, CF are no where near as good as CB, but that's not their fault...just the fault of the importer / trader, CF in the hands of good importers / traders are superb, just the same as CB in the hands of bad traders are terrible
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[goldenburm]

a certain american BP self proclaimed god lol has had eggs in all but 2 months of the year, so as long as conditioned correctly I cant see why not!
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