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Scott W
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: bad eggs..should I seperate? Reply with quote

Another question that is often asked is "should I seperate bad eggs from the clutch?"

It can be very tempting to pull a rotting egg away from an attached clutch but I would strongly advise not too. You risk damaging the protective layer on the good egg and good eggs hatch, even if touching bad eggs.

As you can see this egg has had no effect on the good eggs that surround it. You can of course discard them if they are loose from the clutch (and it's probably a good idea to, stops 'pot flies' and other pests) but never risk good eggs just to discard bad eggs Wink

Attached photo is from a friends clutch that is due to hatch this week.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people don't but I heard a few guys sprinkle athlete's foot powder on any fungal growth and antiseptic powder on any bacterial growth to contain it. Never done it personally and don't know if there are any adverse affects but most say they leave them in if removing them is difficult.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott, the egg in question went off after some time in the incubator. Judging from its appearance I would have guessed that, when laid, it was probably fertile. If that was the case, what are the typical reasons for a viable egg to fail?.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd heard that as well Paul funnily enough, only not in relation to Royal eggs, I think it was bearded dragon eggs. If I get any like that I fully intend to leave well alone, don't want to have to follow Mark's example and put a band aid on the good egg Laughing It did hatch though Wink

Is there any specific reason for the eggs sitting on the pleastic mesh? Just curious really, you know me, I have to know these things Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

angel148 wrote:
Most people don't but I heard a few guys sprinkle athlete's foot powder on any fungal growth and antiseptic powder on any bacterial growth to contain it. Never done it personally and don't know if there are any adverse affects but most say they leave them in if removing them is difficult.
Paul


I have done this! Works a treat! Snake hatched no probs!
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's always good to know Woodage Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting!!!! I do think though that god used some sense when designing nature and they should be fine left alone. Clearly he had a bad day when it came to woman Laughing Obviously not the physical aspect Embarassed Free shot gals!!!
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracowoman2 wrote:
I'd heard that as well Paul funnily enough, only not in relation to Royal eggs, I think it was bearded dragon eggs. If I get any like that I fully intend to leave well alone, don't want to have to follow Mark's example and put a band aid on the good egg Laughing It did hatch though Wink

Is there any specific reason for the eggs sitting on the pleastic mesh? Just curious really, you know me, I have to know these things Very Happy


I have to confess that it is my clutch that Scott is very kindly incubating for me following my recent house move. I use the plastic mesh to prevent the eggs from coming into direct contact with the vermiculite. However, I'll be the first to admit that excessive moisture on BP eggs is not an issue but I just prefer this method. Last year I had 7 clutches and 100% hatch rate using this method so I feel comfortable with it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even armour over the meat and 2 veg ain't gonna save you from that one Paul, I have armour piercing Stilettos!! Twisted Evil

Would the neonate in the 'guess what it is' thread be yours as well then? And can I have it Laughing Anyway, back on topic, I think that is further proof that different people do things different ways and with a 100% success rate you really can't complain too much Wink I know some people sprinkle a dry layer of vermiculite over the top of the damp stuff for much the same reason.

Anyone actually put a bowl of water inside their actual incubator to keep the humidity up? I know that too much humidity can be as bad if not worse for the eggs than not enough.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracowoman2 wrote:
Even armour over the meat and 2 veg ain't gonna save you from that one Paul, I have armour piercing Stilettos!! Twisted Evil

Would the neonate in the 'guess what it is' thread be yours as well then? And can I have it Laughing Anyway, back on topic, I think that is further proof that different people do things different ways and with a 100% success rate you really can't complain too much Wink I know some people sprinkle a dry layer of vermiculite over the top of the damp stuff for much the same reason.

Anyone actually put a bowl of water inside their actual incubator to keep the humidity up? I know that too much humidity can be as bad if not worse for the eggs than not enough.



I confess - the "Guess What It Is" is mine as well but here's the rub - I don't know what it is either!

As for humidity levels, I find that each Contico tub retains sufficient humidity with no need for additional water. HOWEVER, bear in mind that BP eggs are extremely robust and hardy and can sustain a great diversity of conditions (as Scott will no doubt testify). Other python species require much greater attention to detail.

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