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Leopard Gecko Morphs - advise needed

 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Leopard Gecko Morphs - advise needed Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm looking to get a female (ideally adult) within the next year or so with the intention of eventually breeding her with my two year old normal morph leopard gecko. I'd really appreciate any advise people might have on the best sort of thing to look for in terms of morphs etc. and what I might expect to get as a result of breeding. I intend to sell on the young so I'm willing to pay a reasonable amount for a female that will produce profitable babies. I'm afraid I'm relatively ignorant on the specifics of gecko genealogy so all advise would be most welcome.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only see you making a loss moneywise.Whatever you breed to your male will turn out normal looking as he carries all the dominant genes.I saw normal looking ones being sold last year at £10 -15 each.When you consider you will have to feed them for a few months to make sure they are doing good it's more breeding them for fun than profit.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your advise. I do mostly intend to breed for fun (I just don't see the harm in making a profit if I can) so I'll probably go ahead anyway but it's good to know what I'm getting myself into. I would still be interested to know more about the genealogy of leopard geckos if at all possible. So if anybody has information of this nature I'd be keen to find out.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve H wrote:
I can only see you making a loss moneywise.Whatever you breed to your male will turn out normal looking as he carries all the dominant genes..


This is only true in the case of recessive traits (e.g. blizzard, patternless, all three strains of albino, eclipse). However, in the case of incompletely dominant (Mack snow, giant) or dominant (enigma) genes, offspring will phenotypically exhibit that particular trait in the first generation.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dont need your female for a year or two, you could buy babies instead, they will still be ready to breed in a year if well looked after and you will be able to get more than one for the same money and set them up as a colony Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your comment cjreptiles - that's very interesting to know - this is exactly the sort of thing I'm keen to find out.

I would definitely consider getting babies rather adults as I quite enjoy raising them from the start. Would you recommend getting just young females or another morph of male to breed with them.

What are good morphs to look for?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amazoncat wrote:
Thanks for your comment cjreptiles - that's very interesting to know - this is exactly the sort of thing I'm keen to find out.

I would definitely consider getting babies rather adults as I quite enjoy raising them from the start. Would you recommend getting just young females or another morph of male to breed with them.

What are good morphs to look for?


To be honest, it's completely personal opinion. I would always just keep the morphs I liked the look of (although for me, that's virtually all of them!).

That said, Mack snows - which are incompletely dominant, as I said before, so will give you 50% Mack snow offspring (in theory) when crossed with a normal - are quite nice, and are cheap (i.e. under £60) nowadays.

Enigmas are dominant and a great, but are still quite expensive; in the region of a few hundred.

If you don't mind waiting a couple of years to produce your own morphs than you can get virtually anything you like because, even if you do produce only normals in the first generation, you can always produce visible morphs in the second generation (although just because you CAN does not always mean you WILL - although you can calculate the predicted percentages of each 'morph' from a particular mating, this is only a theoretical outcome which is often not the case in reality).
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