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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Starting to breed designer morphs... Reply with quote

I got my first royal earlier this summer and enjoyed keeping it so muvh i got another for christmas, bring it up to 1.1.

I would like to try and breed them bothin the next year or so. Thing is, I really like the look of lots of the different morphs/colour variations. I was hoping with my christmas money to buy a pair of 07 or wait a bit and get 08 Pastels. Breed them and then carry on form there...

Do you guys have a plan of the year of what to breed to what?

How did you first start out with royal morphs?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it all depends on your finances to be honest.if you only have a limited budget do indeed start out with maybe a pastel male and then breed him and then trade up and increase your collection as you go but it is a slow process.your better bet would be to save a bit longer and buy a combo morph male such as a bumble bee and then instantly you have trebled the ammouint of visual morphs you could possibly produce in one go Wink the very first royal morph i bought was a pastel in either early 05 or late 04 and i then bred him to normals and kept the females and sold the males and in the meantime i was buying any other morphs i could afford Wink get spending Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after christmas, the old mans helping me build a rack with 9 and 35 ltr RUB's to grow them in, then they move to the Komplement Rack. I just thought that i could get the pair of pastels breed them to make supers then with the money from that, get some like some albinos etc. then grow the collection that way...

Do you keep any offspring then breed them back in to their parents and things like that ro is that frowned upon?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would breed stuff back to its parents if i felt it neccesary,i havnt with royals as yet though but my pog male is growing so fast he's tempting me Laughing one thing i would suggest is if your buying snakes and they are babies try to imagine what numbers of the morph will be available in three years time when youve bred your's?it does ruin the fun slightly but you need to be prepared to take a pounding on the cost of things as now to what they will be then Wink unless you can get a really good deal then there's not a lot of the bottom left to fall out of it Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Jamie say's the BEST thing to do if your starting out is to aim high and buy a double co-dom morph, I'd actually go for a female. Then the following year buy the best double co-dom male you can afford, in year 2/3 you could end up producing your own 2, 3 and 4 morph combo, this will put you way ahead of a lot of people Wink

Also in the mean time start growing on normal females, aim to have 5 normal females and your morph female, that would make a good number for you male and they should all then be ready to breed at the same time.

If you really can't afford anything that high up, I'd start with pastel females or if you really couldn't stretch to those obviously your only option is a pastel male and then produce your own females, this is fine and many do it this way but it does add two years minimum to any project.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Note taken. Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I am just not business minded enough, but I would work out what morphs you LIKE and would like to own, then buy one of those. That way, even if you don't manage to breed them, or if you have bad odds in any babies, at least you've got animals you enjoy owning out of it anyway...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toyah wrote:
Maybe I am just not business minded enough, but I would work out what morphs you LIKE and would like to own, then buy one of those. That way, even if you don't manage to breed them, or if you have bad odds in any babies, at least you've got animals you enjoy owning out of it anyway...


quite true...So I would still say the same as above but choose a double co-dom morph you LIKE...after all no point keeping something you don't like. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you've already had some good advice. i personally would pick a morph you really like the look of and either buy one or if like me you cant afford it, buy a pair that could potentially produce what you are after. you have mentioned albinos so maybe a pair of 100% hets and try your luck at hitting the odds. co-doms are also a great start and there are some really nice morphs out there that arnt really that expensive and can be combined to make some very nice morphs for example you could buy a pastel and a spider and get pastels, spiders and bees out of a clutch. at the end of the day its really up to you and what you like and can afford, what ever you get remember to post some pics Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about a pair of 100% hets but i dont really get it that much. This is mmy view;
If i breed two 100% het albinos. I get a clutch of five eggs. Odds are i get 2 albinos and 3 normal 66% het albino. That about right?
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