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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: introducing the male Reply with quote

Thought i would find out from you guys how long after cooling do you introduce the male to the female.

Is there any set time or do you just throw them in and let them get on with it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cooled for 2weeks before placing the male with the female... Some wait a month some wait 1 week.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know much about this subject Crying or Very sad but good luck rad Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in this one as well Very Happy Also what temps should I have my heat mats set to? I've reduced food size, but have left hotspots at 92f 24/7 which I'm positive is wrong, but I'm all confused about the whole cooling thing Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes Laughing

RoyalCrazy, love your Racers! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Wink

Check these site's out.

http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/matrix/ralphs_words/ball_breeding.asp
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: introducing the male Reply with quote

Rad wrote:
Thought i would find out from you guys how long after cooling do you introduce the male to the female.

Is there any set time or do you just throw them in and let them get on with it Very Happy


Hello Rad.I start introducing males with females a month after my cooling starts.
Now there really is NO set in stone way of doing it as I know breeders who start right away.
Some breeders wait 2 months lol.

In the NON breeding season my room temps are kept at 86 degrees and the hot spot is 94 24/7.

I start my cooling in late October.I have my room temp at 86 during the day and there hot spot is at 94.
Once 5pm rolls around my Herpstat drops my night temps in the room to 80 and then drops my hot spot to 80 also.

Come about 7 am in the morning the Herpstat control turns the room temp back up to 86 and there hot spot back to 94.

This has worked GREAT for me for many years.

That being said I know some breeders who NEVER cool there balls and have great hatching seasons.


I believe it is taking some info from a few great breeders and then tweaking it so that it works best and suits where you live and what will work best as you watch and learn from your own collection.

What I mean by that is I watch my animals habits and by studying them I learn what they want and need Smile

Ok enough rambling from me LOL.

I REALLY hope that made SOME sense and helps a bit.

It's early and I have had a few to many coffees Very Happy

I wish you all the best this year. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks RoyalCrazy, I've studied Marcus Jaynes website many times, I think I'm just being thick about it all, but I'll certainly have a look at Ralphs, I must have missed that bit Embarassed

Thanks for that Kelvin, that made perfect sense. So from that would I be right in assuming that I could just drop their hotspots down a bit and let the ambient room temp do the rest? I've got one warm room and the other is a bit colder, but I may move the other 4 up to the new rack and cool them all in the same rack, it'll make it easier to control the heating and humidity as well. I've been misting them every day, and have reduce food size anyway, although I know that some people stop offering food altogether at this time of year and only start feeding again after ovulation (I think it was).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: introducing the male Reply with quote

Kelvin,J,T wrote:
Rad wrote:
Thought i would find out from you guys how long after cooling do you introduce the male to the female.

Is there any set time or do you just throw them in and let them get on with it Very Happy


Hello Rad.I start introducing males with females a month after my cooling starts.
Now there really is NO set in stone way of doing it as I know breeders who start right away.
Some breeders wait 2 months lol.

In the NON breeding season my room temps are kept at 86 degrees and the hot spot is 94 24/7.

I start my cooling in late October.I have my room temp at 86 during the day and there hot spot is at 94.
Once 5pm rolls around my Herpstat drops my night temps in the room to 80 and then drops my hot spot to 80 also.

Come about 7 am in the morning the Herpstat control turns the room temp back up to 86 and there hot spot back to 94.

This has worked GREAT for me for many years.

That being said I know some breeders who NEVER cool there balls and have great hatching seasons.


I believe it is taking some info from a few great breeders and then tweaking it so that it works best and suits where you live and what will work best as you watch and learn from your own collection.

What I mean by that is I watch my animals habits and by studying them I learn what they want and need Smile

Ok enough rambling from me LOL.

I REALLY hope that made SOME sense and helps a bit.

It's early and I have had a few to many coffees Very Happy

I wish you all the best this year. Very Happy
great explanation mate Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I cooled for 2weeks before placing the male with the female... Some wait a month some wait 1 week.
one month seems go for me just wanted to see if anyone if it totally different
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Kelvin,J,T
7am-5pm same for me, i keep hots stops around 95 and at night cool to around 80.

As i keep most of my snake in my office the room temp is what ever the misses whats Smile
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