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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: newpythons set up. Reply with quote

ok, this is newpythons set up. the probe you can see is for the bulb, the probe for the mat is under the bulb. on the mat of course. could the bulb be interfering with the mat probe?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newpython i had to resize picture again. its still a bit large. this may be why you cant post them.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why have a bulb and a mat?

The bubl will throw the mat stat probe out IMO, so he should have one on at any time.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that the probe for the light should not interfer with the probe for the mat as they will both heat up or lower down.It is the way i would set them up myself.In all honesty on most lights i do not use a stat i just use a bulb that is big enough to reach the temps that i need for a basking area.Maybe i am doing it wrong but it has worked for me this way without any problems for years.The mat stat will keep the heatmat at the temp you need it to be whether the light is on or not as it will adjust for the heat being given out by the light.Although the gaurd is very dense for the spotbulb.I would probably change it for a fine mesh home made gaurd which will allow for a much better heat distribution.Using the aspen is absolutly fine but you will need to keep the moss box in there to keep a humid area so that the snake can get plenty of moisture as to much moisture in aspen tends to ruin it and make it small as well as grow mould.Bring the temps on the hot end to around 86-88 on the heat mat and then use the spotlight to get a basking area of around 95 and your royal should be fine and dandy.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a couple of pics of my boa viv.It is 36x24x24" and has an 11x11 heatmat on a pulse stat with a 40watt spotbulb to raise the day time temps.The night time temps are 84 degrees and the daytime temps jump up to 92 with the lights on.The lights are not controlled by a stat.

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The inside veiw the rock is placed under the heat light and slightly on the heat mat.Notice the position of my probe.The reason for it being here is so that even if i add a substrate the heat of the mat will be where i need it to be at the substrates surface level and not at the bottom of the substrate which would ne no good for the snake.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got my geckos set up a very similar way to Greenphase's boas, only my probe for the heatmat is about 1/2 way up the side of the viv, that way I know the mat is always right at night, and I just use a 40watt spot bulb for daytime to boost the ambient temps in the enclosure, and then they have the heatmat at night for belly warmth. I'm only running heatmats for the 50 Litre Rubs for my big girls of about 11"x11" and that seems to keep it just right, but I had to do a little fiddling with the Pulse Stat to get the heat on the newspaper to about 92f, as it needs to go through the RUB and newspaper.

Forgot to say I don't have my bulbs on stats either, I use them to control ambient, and the heatmat for digestion etc. But that's for the geckos, but would use the same method for the snakes if I was running vivs.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only use heatmats. so i cant comment on the bulbs.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greenphase wrote:
Here is a couple of pics of my boa viv.It is 36x24x24" and has an 11x11 heatmat on a pulse stat with a 40watt spotbulb to raise the day time temps.The night time temps are 84 degrees and the daytime temps jump up to 92 with the lights on.The lights are not controlled by a stat.

The overall look


The inside veiw the rock is placed under the heat light and slightly on the heat mat.Notice the position of my probe.The reason for it being here is so that even if i add a substrate the heat of the mat will be where i need it to be at the substrates surface level and not at the bottom of the substrate which would ne no good for the snake.



What happens if your snake is cool and lays next to the probe of the thermostat? Surely the snakes cold body would really knock the temps out of sync. With the experience I have had of thermostat probes being inside vivariums, you have to be careful. I had a snake poo on a probe once and the temperatures soured through the roof.

When I get my vivariums for my boa's, they will have heat mats outside the vivarium underneath it, with the probe on the heatmat and the ambient temperature will be controlled with a small room heater to heat the whole room. That way, i can guarantee that the temperatures won't be hindered by the snakes messing with the probes.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Just don't why Reply with quote

Just don't know why my mat stat don't heat the mat to the temp i need i have to run it with no stat and it get far too hot
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Just don't why Reply with quote

NEWPYTHON wrote:
Just don't know why my mat stat don't heat the mat to the temp i need i have to run it with no stat and it get far too hot


What type of stat do you use and what is the maximum temp it can be set to? If for instance, you want to have a base temperature of 92f and set the thermostat to that temperature, it'll be near impossible for you to get a base temperature of that, because the probe will warm to that before the substrate.
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