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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWCs arent DWA
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWC are on DWA mate
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they arent
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please go to

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/gwd/animallist.pdf

or

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/uksi_20072465_en.pdf

This is the official DWAA list of animals, and I don't see Hydrodynastes gigas anywhere but if you have a link or info that does then please post it so we can clear this up.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just looking at my own list....maybe he is mistaking the part where it says "certain rear-fanged venomous snakes" as meaning Hydronastes are in that pretty open field too! But they definately aren't there. Where are you seeing that information ultimate boides?

To me, apart from temperament, Hydronastes are no more dangerous than a hognose. So unless you have a bad reaction (which you can have with a ratsnake or any other common colubrid), then its not a dangerous snake.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"certain rear-fanged venomous snakes" as meaning Hydronastes


possibly, but they are very specific about which rear fanged they are talking about especially when you compare the old list and the new one.

Anyway I think it is safe to say that FWC are not DWA.

Just my two cents

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One must be careful assuming the danger level of these back fangers.

http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7675

This snake is considered mildly venomous. The victim asn't even chewed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually heard a while ago about a whipsnake killing a guy in melbourne......it was on a news article "Harmless snake proves deadly".....would like to look into the follow up of, see if that particular snake was classified any differently after that.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every single bite, even by the same snake, is different from victim to victim. There are so many factors involved in the effects of envenomation.

To assume that a FWC will only give a headache or a little bit of swelling is a huge underestimation, and could even be a costly mistake. Keep in mind that whilst that bite may prove minute, it does introduce your body to venom. This may even develop into hypersensitivity to snake venom in general.
Being bit by any venomous snake, mildly or dangerously venomous, is not a joke. Anyone that has been bitten by a so-called mildly venomous reptile will attest to the discomfort and pain a bite causes.

Personally, I think a large FWC could deliver a potentially dangerous bite and should never be underestimated.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, anyone that has ever seen a large FWC kill a rat will know how destructive this animal could be if it were to bite as a feeding response.
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