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Martinh · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: How dangerous is too dangerous?

I have been hearing rumours/murmurs in various forums (i have a lot of spare time) that large boids could soon be classed as dangerous wild animals in the uk and would therefore require a licence. Is there any truth or sense in this?

Not having any experiance with what would be classed as a large boid, whats the general opinion here?

There are well documented cases of retics eating people i m sure we ve all seen the pictures of the guy who decided to take a nap in the forest! and more recently the burm in florida(?) eating and alligator.

However as i understood it the whole ethic behind the DWA was that it assessed the risk to people other than the owner. I find it somewhat difficult to believe that a snake large enough to consume its owner would be in any hurry to go out and find similar snacks.

What about big monitors as well could they be potential DWA's?

What are peoples opinions about keeping large reptiles of all kinds and keeping children not?(not necessarily in the same enclosure Laughing

) Risky?

In my experiance the uk herp scene is heavily self regulated, by individuals themselves as well as shop owners.

Reptiles receive alot of bad press, largely because of a lack of understanding, is it always going to be so?

Sorry for the huge post i just started to think about the state of the UK scene.
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Martin

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Scott W · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject:

there is certainly a review on adding large constrictors to the DWA schedule, and it certainly wouldn't suprise me if Retics at the least went on.

An adult retic or burmese does have the strength to overpower an adult and certainly a child, and there has been cases in the USA of people being killed by there large pet constrictors. However each of theses cases has been from the owners pure stupidity, like leaving there snake free in the house or climbing into an enclosed space with them and on EVERY occasion the victim has ALWAYS been the owner on a member of their family.

The DWA is not there to protect the OWNER or their families, it is there to protect members of the public, so with it's own definition, large constrictors should NOT go on the dwa as they pose less of a threat or danger to the public than ANY large dog.

Certainly people should be aware of the strength of these snakes but adding them to the DWA schedule due to people being irresponsible is not a good reason to do so, after all when people are irresponsible with cars, drink, dogs etc, members of the public can get seriously injured or die.
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Snakes Inc. · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:

I know of some one who would let his six-foot pulse Burmese python roam around a second floor flat till some one mistakably left the front door open. The elderly couple next door discovered Betsy in their sitting room. Twisted Evil

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Imperial Retics · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject:

Mememe · Site Moderator Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 2141

To be honest, I'd rather be left in a room with a hungry retic than a hungry dog!
Many animals are far more dangerous than large boids, and aren't even considered for DWA!

Scott W · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject:

kandi · I'm new here... Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 4

i agree fully, horses are extremlly dangerous i have been kicked in the back and the head

Martinh · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject:

Who carries out the DWA inspections? It should be a reptile specialist right? Or is it mainly common sense and paperwork?

Looking at the problem feeder post in this part of the forum i m sure alot of us would like our animals to be a bit more 'dangerous' once in a while! Very Happy

I'm almost certain that if as many people kept reptiles as people do dogs that big constrictors wouldnt even be considered as
DWA's. There is a severe lack of public understanding.

I suppose there could be a positive side to this, people who are unable to keep a large constrictorr would be unable to obtain one, as if you are a breeder i m sure it can be difficult to know where your animals are going.

Snakes Inc.

3-year-old child spends hour in cage

This is a bit old, but still amazing!

3-year-old child spends hour in cage with 30 poisonous snake

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia After almost an hour locked in a cage with 30 poisonous snakes, 3-year-old Siti Amirah had just one thing on her mind: her milk bottle.

Siti, whose father is a snake handler in northeastern Kelantan state, chatted calmly with the deadly cobras and other snakes Thursday as they curled around her neck and hands, The Star newspaper reported.

"You OK?" she was quoted as playfully asking one of the serpents.

Siti's father, Sayuti Harun, said his daughter was first exposed to snakes when she was a year old. She showed no fear and was comfortable around his 112 pet snakes, among them pythons, cobras and rattlesnakes.

Sayuti, 61, said he planned to pass on to Siti the snake-handling skills that he learned from his father 35 years ago.

After spending nearly an hour in the cage, Siti ambled out and, unfazed by cheers and applause from a watching crowd in Kuala Terengganu town, reached for her milk bottle.

Staff at the resort hotel where the show was held were not able to provide a contact for Sayuti and declined to comment on what safety precautions were taken.

The hotel's public relations department, which organized the event, was closed on Friday for a public holiday.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/...e_Princess.php
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