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devboy Contributing Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: What am I ? |
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I'm only ickle an' me shy. go away please.. me asking nicely.
More to follow... So far so chuffed! _________________ www.ratsnakefoundation.org
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Some more of her…
Her future boyfriend…
Another bloke… Cheers Chaz
His blue future girlfriend… she looks high maintenance to me… Cheers Chaz again
Go away! I’m not ready yet me iz all blue, don’t you dare take any pix until I’ve got me new togs on, I won’t ask nicely… grrr
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Windy Contributing Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 90 Location: Barwell E.midlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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What cuties ... love these Guys .. great pix dude  _________________ The Ratsnake Foundation
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peaches CaptiveBred Addict!

Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 940 Location: somerset
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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They are lovely, great to see some around atm. Love the last pics with the atitude  _________________ www.ratsnakefoundation.org |
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devboy Contributing Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'll spill the beans, Coelognathus subradiatus or Elaphe subradiata in old money. _________________ www.ratsnakefoundation.org
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Crunchie Key Member

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 252 Location: Falkirk, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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The picture of the defence pose is excellent. It's always very funny when a baby snake goes into hard-nut mode even though they probably know damn fine they haven't got a chance in hell of hurting you. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, although they hope that you don't realise that!  _________________ www.ratsnakefoundation.org
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devboy Contributing Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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A dark Female
A future boyfriend…
Hiding…
A bit more of him…
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Windy Contributing Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 90 Location: Barwell E.midlands
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wowza love your melanistic subz
Shame both yours and mine are females would of been interesting to determine the mode of inheritance ... I know these little beauties can randomly pop out of a clutch but would be nice to prove them as a genetic trait .....
I got 4.4 from Smiler @ CPR a few weeks back ... I think you must of brought up the rest of the shipment there dude I've fell hook line and sinker for them already, great little characters .. lightening fast and a bit showy and boy can these guys eat .. very fast metoblism (sp) 24-36 hours and dollop ... are you seeing this ? quite a fragile species by all accounts in the first six months similar to reports you hear about moellendorffi ... OK one minute and the next they roll .. with these the humidity is vital and also because of the fast digestion process feeding twice a week is essential .. I've heard reports that as little as 3 weeks without food and these guys roll.
You've got some pretty one's amongst yours Dude . suprised by the variation in colour .. I know theres another form too that has a lot more patterning to there bodies .. would love to get some of them in the future *dreams*
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yup to digestion, mega quickzville. I do wonder whether their fragility is anything to do with a shift in their natural strategy they adopt as they grow, some people in America have had success with mollies raising them into adulthood by breaking the cardinal humidity (and plenty of it) rule. They were kept on dry aspen if memory serves. Like most of the Coelognathus genera, particularly as youngsters they seem to require a moist hide to aid shedding and perhaps even absorb some of this through their skin (a guess) for hydration.
Personally I'm hedging my bets on how to best keep them. I keep them on a newspaper substrate (anyone who knows me, knows I adore such naturalistic enclosures ). I keep this bone dry with a few folded bits for added cover. Along with frequent quick checks, an attempt to cut out excessive disturbance, I took the above 'snake bothering pix' when I was checking them out and replacing water with the sphagnum moss they put in their bowls. I then have a small container filled with moist/damp moss. As this moss box is midway in their tub, it does cause condensation, so the newspaper gets a bit damp after a day or two. I try to time the 'snake bothering' with the feeding so that they have a full day undisturbed before a couple of pinks are presented to them.
The last two feeds I haven't brained them at all and they took their meals. There certainly doesn't seem to be an issue with appetites at least.
The variation is pretty cool, I look forward to breeding these if they fare well. The heavily patterned ones, are they the ones that belong to 'group 2' do you think and therefore likely to be a little longer and bulkier as adults? There seems to be quite a lot of variation between all the small islands they come from. I'd love some of those too... ermm along with *consults wish list*
*Edited due to poor Grandma _________________ www.ratsnakefoundation.org
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