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martin day
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: new blackthroat Reply with quote

i brought my female black throat on sunday and i still havent seen her since she went in to her hid ,i know shes beenout while the house were empty today as shes had a massive crap
i fed her when i brought her home but im worrying as she hasnt eaten for 3 days should i remove her from her hide to feed her or shall i leave her to come out in her own time
the house has been a bit mad since i brought her home as my daughter hasnt been to school so it been a bit noisy
how long will it take for her to become more used to us and will start to venture out more
shes not a baby shes around 30 inches
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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leave her to come out in her own time

Forcing her out of a place where she feels safe and secure will only prolong the settling in period.

May be worth trying her with some adult locusts it might trigger a feeding responce.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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leave her to come out in her own time

Forcing her out of a place where she feels safe and secure will only prolong the settling in period.

May be worth trying her with some adult locusts it might trigger a feeding responce.
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martin day
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the reply i thought id ask before removing her i didnt think it would be a good idea i was just checking
how long will it take for her to settle in?
i allso i have a bosc and a tegu but they were never scared when i first brought them home theve been on the go from day one,
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you bought this animal from a shop (its not one of the ones from wharf is it?) then it's most likely wild caught.

it will be shy especially when settling into a new environment, it will probably behave in a very defensive manner as well, watch to make sure that it doesn't damage itself if it tail whips especially.

For food i'd offer a selection including rodents and larger insects, it will most likely need feeding up ... then you'll probably get a better idea of it's temperament.

Have you wormed it? a dose of panacur and flagyll would not go a miss, also check for ticks, BTs are covered in ticks usually, check the ears, nostrils and scales in the arm pits, vent and on the back of the neck. I have used vaseline with great effect or use something like frontline dabbed on.

give it plenty of space and time,

carl
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martin day
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is from wharf yes ,it doesnt really worry me that its wild caught i still believe with enough time and patience she can be calmed down
how do i worm her ?
she ate plenty of mealworms when i got her home then had an egg and a rat weaner and she still looked like she wanted more shes had a big helping of ground turkey today
she was extreamly aggresive when i was putting her in the viv but as soon as id picked her up she just went calm and then whiped me as soon as i put her down i expected all of that anyway ,
im just going to give her plenty of time to get used to us and im sure she`ll be ok
as for ticks i didnt see anything when i checked her but she looks like a wild caught she has a mark on her tail and im sure she wouldnt have if she waas captive bred
thanks for the replys
martin
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

martin day wrote:
she ate plenty of mealworms when i got her home then had an egg and a rat weaner and she still looked like she wanted more shes had a big helping of ground turkey today


I would try and avoid the ground turkey, eggs and even the meal worms and stick with whole pray food items. Chicks are a favorite of albigs as well as locust and rats. She should be able to take adult mice even from a near hatch-ling size.

martin day wrote:
she was extreamly aggresive when i was putting her in the viv but as soon as id picked her up she just went calm and then whiped me as soon as i put her down i expected all of that anyway ,
im just going to give her plenty of time to get used to us and im sure she`ll be ok


This is normal behavior for a freshly imported and stressed WC animal. Leave her be to get settled and only handle her when necessary. She will calm down and get used to you in her own time. You will find she will be a far more rewarding captive if she is left to adapt on her own as opposed to the force handling = broken spirit approach.

Rick
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martin day
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks alot rick Very Happy
i have one last question im trying to work out how old she could be, shes around 30 inches and unlike alot of other sub adults ive seen shes lost quite alot of her pattern you can see it faint but not as strong as others ive seen,does there pattern fade with age?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patterns do fade with age but it is not really a good indication of how old your monitor is. The reality is that it is almost impossible to know the age of your animal as she/he is wild caught. At 30' long she could be anywhere from 6 months to 6+years! I know of a CBB albig that hit 6' in 12 months and i also know of ones that are long term captives, and have been with there keepers for several years, and are only pushing the 4' mark.

The point i am trying to make is that size is not a good indication of age, neither is colour........To tell you the truth i don't know what is!

Hahaha!

All the best

Rick
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks again
to look at i would say she isnt that young at all ill try and get pics as soon as i have my camera
if she isnt young would it hinder my chances of getting her to trust me ?
how big are yours rick and do you have any pics of them
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martin
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