Reptile Forum, Reptile Classifieds - CaptiveBred

DeanThorpe · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject:

Hi Guys.
IS danceswithsavs still about?
anyway I felt they were treated badly on anothe rforum and heard they got a similar response on here but wasnt here to see it.
Thanks for the video links, will check them out, I have a pretty lovely tame bosc myself but As with all my reps i just kinda do what i think and get down to thier level which prolly isnt necesarily the way a lot of you guys would do things.
If it works, and no harm comes to any animal [and prefereably not us peeps too] then it cant be bad surely.
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lol93 · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject:

Nice to see and read about other peoples' experiences.

A year down the line, my water monitor will not come out if anyone is in the same room. He will take rodents from tongs, but only if he's hiding.

I am concerned I'm doing something wrong. I have been very patient, and on the advice of several monitor 'experts' on other forums, I haven't handled him or bathed him. As he is my first monitor, I want to make sure I do things right. He's in a big 6' viv, with leaf litter, water, a Rete's stack and branches to climb. He has a basking spot of 125-130 degrees, and rodents and insects to eat.

My worry is that he's going to turn into a six footer who freaks out every time someone goes near him, which would not be good if I have to take him to the vet for any reason. I don't want to 'tame' him, or break his spirit, but he is not really any closer to trusting me than he was as a baby.

Can anyone advise, or recommend a better way to train him to tolerate people?
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johne.ev · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject:

Lol93, I had same experience as you with my Argus. although i have recently sold it. not because it wouldn't tame down, but because i couldn't afford the electric bill anymore. i often wondered if it would have been better to have handled it more often. when i first got it i tried holding it every other day, but it would hide for 3 or 4 days after & not even come out to feed. i now have 3 peacock monitors, which i have left them alone since i got them. they bask in the open & feed from tongs & drink from spray bottle. they are not shy at all, although they wouldn't let me handle them. if i get too close they hiss & inflate their throats. i am pesonally happy just to observe.

p.s when i had to handle the Argus to sell it, it was surprisingly calm.

crocdoc · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:36 am Post subject:

arch · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject:

I'm having the same probs with my roughneck, I've only handled him four or five times since getting him in feb, ive been to a shop that have two adults and the owner said they tolerate people (female more than male) and he said the best way to get him used to me was to handle him more! so i thought when i get home ill get him out, after about 20 Min's of running round the floor (hes was fine getting out) he sat under the bed i went to grab a camera to get some pics and when i returned..... hes gone
look all over and then i thought i bet hes gone down the 4 inch gap between the wall and the Viv so i got a torch and YEP there he was 5 foot
from me!!!! i didn't know what to do, thankfully after about 40Min's of waving a mouse on a bamboo cane i was able to herd hm out but he wasn't very happy when i grabbed him! and i think ive lost most of the trust i built up over the last few months, i was able to feed him from tweezers
when he was out but now he hides again when i come in the room!
im not to worried if hes happy but don't want him growing up to be frightened of everyone. Just though id have a moan.

puddlesplash · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:08 am Post subject:

arch · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:53 am Post subject:

Ive not seen them but wanted to ask if anyone knows what shes feeding them in the first film it looks like fudge or oxo cubes! probably isn't!

puddlesplash · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:30 am Post subject:

ilovemonitor-lizards · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:37 am Post subject:

hi everybody. very nice video once again crocdoc and i totally agree with you that monitors are clever enoug the check out those thinks very very quick.
one thing about taming monitors how i see it. just spend your time with them and feed them by your own. thats all i would do and have done . these bathtube storys are so dump !!!!!!!!!!!!!! even if they are work. it´s completly dump and if you need to "break" a monitor ( or any other animal) do get it the way your like, then we both should never meet for shure !!!

and then, whats that ?!

It wasn't about whether or not you chose to train your monitors to tongue flick you and your partner's faces for food

hallo, how dump can you be. do you have any clue about the predator monitor lizard ?

and to compare a sav monitor with an larger australian monitor shows so much, that you have no idea about monitors in gerneral. so now something about my monitors. nearly all of my monitors are calm. only my tritis orientalis "don´t like" any near to me. i have never done anything to get them like that. but of course dwarf monitor lizard are not the same like the large ones. as you could ye, i keep a group of panotes panoptes. i got them last summer and they traveled a long way (2 days from there last owner to hamm, where we had meet ). i went at home with them, put them in the enclosure and was very very suprised how curious the male was from the first minute. after so much stress !! i can handle him if i like to and could give him the full space of my flat, as you do crocdoc, to get more space for moving around and bask at my balkony. i will also try this with my lace monitor when i get him in a few weeks. if we both have luck, me and him, we could handle it the same way and i get the wonderfull experience of such an impressive lizard ( 50cm large then my panoptes wich is about 1,30m ) moving around me, and he gets the additional room they sometimes need. if it doesn´t work, the enclosure is large enough ( 4x1,5x1,5 m) and just seeing him there is a dream comes true.

so treat your monitors they way they deserve and don´t make such nonsense!!! regards martin
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puddlesplash · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: