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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: which is more suitable?? Reply with quote

I've been keeping snakes for about 18months now, had quite a variety of different species. I'm just wondering whether anyone can advise as to whether false water cobra or an Asian vine snake would be more appropriate. Any info on either of these would be appreciated, I know that they are mid or rear fanged and non-DWA. Thanks in advance. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more appropirate in what respect?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm,
what species have you kept before?

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant think off the top of my head of a species that is "suitable" in any form of the word.

not to be a dick, im trying to be helpful.

even the most calm and easy going (term used very liberally) and least potent venom still stands to possibly kill you in a severe situation or at the very least make you completely miserable physically and economically for a while.

some experienced keepers recommend to keep black racers before getting in venomous. they are extremely fast and known to be moody and willing to bite. if you can handle one of them for a few months id say you are apt to possibly start with an easy going venomous animal.

you have to remember, one slip up, one bad day or moment of judgement could cost you your life.

is it worth it?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i forgot to add. maybe a 5-6 foot scrub python would also make you think twice about owning venomous as well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

christophermchale wrote:

you have to remember, one slip up, one bad day or moment of judgement could cost you your life.

is it worth it?


Hell Yeah! Cool Laughing




ok....seriously though it is a huge step taking on venomous as Christopher say's above it can all go pear shaped VERY QUICKLY and even if you don't die you can end up with permanent disabilities/problems

I recommend dealing with as large a range of different harmless species as possible before going down the DWA route, non dwa back fanged species are ok but again general experiance should still be gained from other species first...

Good luck, have fun and don't become complacent Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. Cheers for responses and i can appreciate the concerns about owning a venomous snake. I don't want to get either of as a way to get into DWA animals. I don't feel the need to get a snake on the idea that it could kill me. I've kept corn snakes, rainbow boas, amazon tree boas, milksnakes, royal pythons (which i gave to my brother) and a western hognose. All I've got at the moment is a coastal carpet python.
In regards to what I mean to appropriate I mean as in the husbandry skills required and the ease of owning one.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that the two species you've asked about are at totally different ends of the spectrum, but are both in their own way difficult to keep, gigas are big, strong and have a good feeding response. Ahaetulla are quite nervous, can be tough to feed, and effort in enclosure design will be required.
Figure out the easier one and then choose the other, the challenge is part of the fun. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess vine snakes would conceivably make a better choice because they are just barely venomous and are rear fanged. they are actually quite fun to keep but a problem is that they feed on lizards. so hopefully you have a way to obtain lizards in order to feed them. and i dont mean catching them.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asian vines are certainly the trickier one. The FWC is fairly easy to keep but its really strong with a very good feed response. This can make it interesting.

The Asian vine needs a little more in care, high humidity is essential, they are also fairly cryptic snakes so best left alone rather than handled loads, though obviously all are different. They can go over to eating rodents, but this can take a while, mainly they will need to be livefed at the very least as they are triggered by movement.

As far as bites go, i'd be more nervous of the FWC, the venom isn't that strong but they can be eager to bite when food is around. Plus the size makes it more likely that they can get a chew. The ahaetulla mainly does bluffing, the teeth are large for its size but it hardly ever hangs on.

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