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poisonjedhead

could any one explain the difference between panoptes panoptes and panoptes horni, to me.
as I'm under the impression one of these is the Argus monitor.
they seem to look the same apart from there size?

any help greatly appreciated

thanks Jed
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Sean · CaptiveBred Addict! Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 602

They are both argus monitors and there is also a third panoptes rubidus.

2 are Australian panoptes panoptes and panoptes rubidus

The other is from Papua New Guinea panoptes horni. Horni is the one more commonly seen in the pet trade as regards to the Ozzie ones.

As regards to size I saw no difference in horni or panoptes both can get quite large or remain medium sized. Rubidus I cannot comment on as I have never seen them in the flesh.

The tail pattern tends to be more reduced ocelli in panoptes panoptes as regards to panoptes horni, both tail ends are banded.

poisonjedhead · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject:

thanks,

so there is another, is it similar in looks.

my other thought is are they desert creatures,

i could be relocating to Spain and want to know if it would be possible to keep this species outdoors in a Mediterranean clmate?

and could one suggest some other species that would be suitable for outdoor life in the med.

many thanks Jed
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Nelson · Key Member Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 318

Where in Spain? As this will dictate massively what you can go for.

P.S, Spain don't seem to have any laws regarding the keeping of reptiles, IE you can go to almost any market and get anything from a desert Ig to a Caimen! (approx 100euro)

poisonjedhead · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject:

Alincante.

i believe its on the east coast.
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shay_ · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject:

Nelson · Key Member Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 318

poisonjedhead · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject:

cheers nelson

i would keep the bulk of my collection inside, though am interested in the possibility of keeping monitors out side for some time during the warmer part of the year,

would this be a possibility? any thoughts please.

been trying to find info on web about taking animals over, only been able to find info regarding my dogs.
any info regarding this would be hugely appreciate.

many thank Jed
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poisonjedhead · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject:

pardon i realize now you stated 3-4 months a year.

do you think one could build a indoor/outdoor enclosure, typical to dog kennels so they could use the best of both worlds.

cheers
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Nelson · Key Member Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 318

You could provide a In/out habitat as you said, the Americans from southern states do it alot.

But they seem to restrict access to the outside to only when the owner feels its right.

I would err on the side of having them indoors but have an area set aside for good days.