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Dracowoman2
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That's a nice pastel 
Good question Quasi, that's what I would have thought as well!
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Alpha Dog
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| quasimodo wrote: | | This is a good thread, helpful to really get to the 'nitty-gritty' of breeding Bees. Question please. I know that in the case of Pieds, a low white Pied is more or less as likely as a high white Pied to produce high white off-spring. Does that principle apply to Pastels ? Would a poor looking Lemon Pastel from a good line still produce nice babies, or in the Pastels case would the poor quality always be passed on ? |
I say no!
This is a touchy subject and I'm trying to tread softly. 
I started breeding Pastels early on when they were the only co doms availible. those early B--- line Pastels were dark ugly creatures. but every now and then a decent one would pop out and that was held back for breeding and the results were a little better.
Soon after, some of the other lines were being developed and the results were still improving. and whats available today has come along way with alot of work by so many breeders.
So I say that the better you start with, the better you will get.  |
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Alpha Dog
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I don't know about you guys, but I can never see too many Bees. 
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Alpha Dog
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Lemon Pastel.
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Scott W
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| Dracowoman2 wrote: | | So are we Talking NERD and Graziani here then for the best options? Which one browns out the least? |
It's impossible to say which is actually best, I've seen stunning examples of both and also naff examples of both.
I prefer the graziani's as I love the blushing on them but as Ed say's it's all about choosing GOOD animals in the first place 
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So I say that the better you start with, the better you will get. |
As with most things
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Dracowoman2
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| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Your right you can never see too many bees
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So I say that the better you start with, the better you will get. Smile
As with most things Laughing Wink |
That's why I come to you Scott
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James
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| first of i have to say that honey bee is amazing thanks for posting the pic. As for best pastels to produce bees has anyone tried getting another pastel combo like the fire pastel and then use that to see if you get really nice pastels. i suppose a POG would be a good choice aswell |
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Dracowoman2
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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A POG and a spider make honeybees
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| but isn't the ghost recessive. so wouldn't you get bees het ghost/hypo? i think you would then need to breed these together to get the honey bee. thats what i thought anyway i could bee wrong. |
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Dracowoman2
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You could be right, I thought it was just a simple cross once you have the POG. At least i hope it is, I''m going for POG's next season and want to put them to my Spider I can at least have fun trying, or that should probably be they can have fun trying
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