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Scott W
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| toyah wrote: | | Is there a homozygous form of spider (super spider)? |
No, not one produced yet so it's extremely unlikey that there is one.
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Scott W
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| _dave_ wrote: | has the market price of spiders reduced much in the last 3 years... i want to produce them, but if theres no market for them anymore im stuck with loads of spiders lol 
how do you think the market and the people wanting spiders will pan out in 2-3yrs?
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the market on spiders has dropped considerably, a friend paid over £15000 about 3 years ago. The price on spiders now is £1500 - £2000 depending on the breeder and quality.
Spiders will continue to drop but the big % drop has already happened & remember spiders are great for breeding into other projects too 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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true scott thanks for your help and info
everyone wants an albino spider lavender pied ! hehe |
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Scott W
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| _dave_ wrote: | true scott thanks for your help and info
everyone wants an albino spider lavender pied ! hehe |
that's the spirit 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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lol good stuff!
i would like a spider because i like them, but having 4 females producing lots of babies would be great too lol.. wonder how much a baby spider will be in 2008/9 |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | No, not one produced yet so it's extremely unlikey that there is one. |
Thanks Scott. Just to clarify does that mean the gene is most likely a homozygous lethal or does is the homozygous form just indistinguishable from the hets? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| toyah wrote: | | Quote: | | No, not one produced yet so it's extremely unlikey that there is one. |
Thanks Scott. Just to clarify does that mean the gene is most likely a homozygous lethal or does is the homozygous form just indistinguishable from the hets? |
I saw on another forum that the homozygous form looks the same as the heterozygous form. They are visually identical. The difference comes in breeding. If you put a homozygous spider male to a normal female you will get 100% spiders, if you use a het male 50%. So, you see you CAN have het for spider animals, in fact most spiders will be het for spider because most breeders breed spiders to normals (quick return). So, there are supersiders, but you will only find out which are which by breeding them. |
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Scott W
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Ron,
I was talking to someone about this over in Hamm but I didn't actually get a definate answer if anyone has produced the 'super' spider that produces 100% spiders.
There must of been quite a few spider x spider breedings, has anyone admitted a super spider (I know it would look the same)? Or have people just missed it as they can't tell them apart?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: spider |
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There was a guy on a Dutch forum that bred his spider male to a normal and got 100% spider clutches twice now from that male
Probably they have been overlooked to an extent because you can't tell the difference. And, like I said, I would expect that most spiders are produced from spider x normal, making supers relatively rare. I also guess the oldest supers can't be that old, so not bred that often. But, seems like they do exist |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks - interesting to know. I guess that means there is little point in breeding spider x spider, though I bet a super spider would be useful for some projects. |
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