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Peter Parrot Site Moderator
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 5402 Location: Over the bridge
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like another matter of personal choice. Very well argued both sides I`d say. _________________ YSBRYDOLI POBL, GWELLA LLEOEDD
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Scott W Site Admin
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 13355 Location: London, England.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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yep, both interesting points, I have to say I totally agree with Fixx.
I would also love to keep them as pets, everything I have read and seen points to them making great pet animals for the right person. _________________
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 9249 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:11 am Post subject: |
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A quick mini rant before going back on Skunk topic, sort of related to topics thus far though;
I detest seeing dogs being dressed up in coats and boots, being treated like surrogate children, being carried about in film stars handbags! This sort of behaviour erks me no end. Mini rant over.
Back on topic.
I like the skunks and have done for some time, I doubt however I would get one as a pet, my dog being a Jack Russell (still with tail and cahones) may attack it, he gets quite jealous at times but does know his social place in the pecking order.
Mind you saying that, we kept free range guinea pigs and rabbits in the garden for a good few years, he never attacked them but used to help round them up at inspection time! Quite odd thinking about it as he chases rats and mice and beats the shite out of hedgehogs. But if I told him to leave he would, he needs to know his place for his own security and emotional well being, being a pack animal originally with the associated hierarchy that goes with the pack. This is also a safety issue. Coincidentally I do tell him to leave if he is abusing a hedgehog. I let him clear the shed etc of mice now and then as I dont want them in the shed as thye nibble everything.
Another reason why I probably would not get another animal as a pet, is that I doubt I would have the time to give to it.
I can see both points of view Dans and Fixx's regarding the keeping of the skunks. But I also agree that it is down to perceptions and personal opinions at the end of the day, I don't believe their is a definitive correct answer, as this simply does not exist as it is down to opinions and beliefs.
One could argue for example that it is not correct to keep any speices of animal, or indeed morally correct to domestic such animals, Dogs are a prime example.
Very interesting debate though and nice to see it being dealt with in a mature manner, no room for the I'm right your wrong brigade (if a debate is to be sensible and informative) all that does is result in loggerheads and no one gains anything or learns anything. _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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Dan Captivebred Communist
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 1306
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Ok, so i'm fine with the different perspectives and all that jazz. What i find interesting is the difference between right or wrong.
You often hear parents say "It's ok, he/she knows the difference between right and wrong" Yet it seems this too is a point of view, nothing is ever black and white with no grey areas.
I imagine most think beating a dog up and then killing it using a bottle rammed down its throat is just plain wrong, yet someone else thought it ok to do it.
Some people think it right to stick elastic bands around a lambs nuts, some think there are better ways, if it has to be done at all.
Some people think it ok to remove a venemous snakes teeth using the rake method (ie scraping the teeth out) stopping it from biting when scared and trying to defend itself.
Some people think it right to surgically alter a skunk in order to remove a defensive mechanism incase they might get upset and spray a delightful odour.
Some people think it right to take a human baby and cut off his foreskin without even asking or waiting for said baby to reach an age where he can make a decision himself. _________________ TFA
The future is bright, the future is a net like pattern.................
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 9249 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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That would be one massive debate; to include, psychology, social norms, peer pressure, cultural issues, traits and customs, incongruence / congruence theory of decision making, religious influence, in fact probably life the universe and everything ! Would be a damn good and very long never ending debate though! The mind boggles!
42 is the answer! _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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Mememe Site Moderator
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 2141
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Rickeezee wrote: |
42 is the answer! |
Seconded! _________________
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Dan Captivebred Communist
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Mememe wrote: | Rickeezee wrote: |
42 is the answer! |
Seconded! |
The motion is therefore passed.
On that note, i'm off to pass another motion _________________ TFA
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Mememe Site Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dan wrote: |
On that note, i'm off to pass another motion |
Not on the floor again!
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Rickeezee Site Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 9249 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Mememe wrote: | Dan wrote: |
On that note, i'm off to pass another motion |
Not on the floor again!
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Thats a shite picture Tom! _________________ www.rickslivefood.co.uk
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Peter Parrot Site Moderator
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 5402 Location: Over the bridge
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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So who has a free range snake? _________________ YSBRYDOLI POBL, GWELLA LLEOEDD
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