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Magpye
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Location: Nottinghamshire
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| Thanks croc, the diet theory is just a theory and as you say could well have no impact - if it isn't water potential related (which I only doubt because of the pattern) then it could well be almost anything. My trists are on a diet of insects and rodents, what is SDZ (San Diego Zoo diet?). The exercise is a bit of both and I appreciate the advice re water potentials. |
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crocdoc
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Location: Sydney Australia - best address on Earth :)
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, SDZ is the San Diego Zoo diet |
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Sam Sweet
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Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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| Sean wrote: | | ...so there goes your theory blown right out of the water. I guess that's what you like to do is theory.... |
Um, do us all a favour Sean and try to temper your peevishness with a bit of logic. I've had captive males not eat all the eggs too, but I struggle to understand how that makes you special, or how it relates to a body of observations about the fate of eggs in predated nests in the wild? Unlike you I have spent a number of years doing reptile ecology outdoors, and I have investigated many hundreds of predated nests (of turtles, snakes and lizards, including monitors). My comments are based on that body of experience, which I would hardly call theory.
With the (temporary) exception of sea turtle nests, I don't recall ever having found an egg from a predated nest that was in a circumstance where it would survive even a few days if left in place, and even finding an intact egg anywhere in the vicinity has been rare unless my arrival interrupted the predation event. The voume of eggs in many sea turtle nests does often exceed what any individual goanna, raccoon, dingo, etc. can consume, but I can assure you that the disturbance and egg fragments at the site does not go unnoticed, and other predators complete the job in short order. You are free to speculate about Lucky Lulu the Undiscovered Egg, but others may feel that this is not a major aspect of the evolutionary biology of eggs and incubation in reptiles.
And no, I don't post under an alias, but again I fail to see how that makes you special, with your single sandbox anecdote, to lecture me about science in general or about generalizations about the biology of monitors? |
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Sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Sorry Sam but I am not the one who is lecturing, just basing personal experiences of mine for people to make up their own minds. Not everything is black and white and no Sam I do not think I am special, where did I say that I was? Please tell me!! I have my opinions and I don't always have to agree with you.
Also let me clear this up, when I mentioned theorizing I was referring to you on the incubation of monitors in captivity, when you have never bred any monitor of any sort, that's why I used the analogy of learning someone to drive when actually you have never stepped foot in an automobile.
Lastly Sam I do come from a scientific background myself in Biology and Chemistry but I don't broadcast the fact as it as no relevance to support individual ideas whether they be academic or not. I have learned far more from people who may not have an higher level of education but understand.
I won't becoming back to this topic now. |
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Sam Sweet
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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