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Wullie
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Central Scotland Reptiles wrote:
Wullie wrote:
Sorry MJ I havent visited this thread as I had given up on getting any replies.

I am looking to plant the viv which is 45sq base and 60 high (cm). Temps will be mid 80s I think with a gradient top to bottom, and relatively high humidity app 80-90% but still to check for definate.

I believe the ATBs are 'shy' snakes during the day so plants with a bit of hieght and some low bushier styles to give options for hiding away. I was intending leaving the plants potted, for easier cleaning and maintenance.

I already have coco mulch (I think) that comes in a 'brick' and add water to swell it up, and some chips, cedar I think, to cover this to hold the moisture. heating I think will probably be a ceramic mounted above the mesh but still to be decided, and I believe I require some UV for the plants.

As I was able to get a taller viv than was originally planned, this will be a longer term housing solution, and may be perminant depending on growth of snakes.

I have quite a bit of time to spare as the ATB(s) which are coming next week will still be tubbed as they are quite small.

Thanks

Wullie


Cedar is deadly to reptiles. Orchid Bark is a good alternative.


Hi Fraser, Scott has already pulled me up about that. It isnt cedar, I just couldnt remember what type of bark it was and for some reason cedar popped into my head.

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arthur cooke
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I found bark of any sort a bit dangerous in that one of my rough greens died through ingesting bark.
If you decide to go for a naturalistic type viv, then the planting medium needs to be plant friendly as well as reptile friendly. many tropical plants need a miniature symbiotic fungi, which you can buy, look up Costa Recan seed co, sorry bout spelling. they do a range of tropical plant seeds as well. I hope I'm not stating the obvious by saying that light is important so shade tolerant plants are the best and many house plants are shade tolerant, my best growers have always been from the fig family, the paddle leaf fig is a good one for a large viv,under good conditions it's a fast grower and you can keep the leaves clean easerly. It doesn't seem to need a lot of feeding, feed mine twice a year. It does like a nice root run. Weeping fig is also quite good, you can buy them really cheap from Ikea and they seem to be in better condition than the ones in garden centres.
Rubber trees are good but slow growers and will need a bit more light. Under planting is a bit more difficult, the best growers seem to like it cooler, mind your own business, creeping fig, moss etc. 85F is about the highest temperature plants will withstand for any length of time, they need a nightly temp drop. Also many plants don't like wet leaves overnight, they need to breath and exhale, water temp when you are spraying is also important because the water need to be at much the same as the temp on the leaf. I think it has something to do with air pressure.
For my own substrate I use multi purpose compost mixed with dead leaves, beech leaves are good, a bit of sand helps drainage, also I found that by adding worms it helped stop the substrate from compacting and also helps feed the plants by dragging down some of the waste products. Some orchids, like the jewel orchid will do well and are cheap. But a bit delicate. A good place for orchids is the RHS annual Orchid show, usually in March in London. Also you can get good advice at the show,also a good source for spraying equipment.
cheers arthur
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