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Spontaneous Pneumoperitoneum in V glauerti?
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Bohan
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no photos of before i cut, but i can tell you that this lump or what ever it is? was in exactly the same shape as you see it in the photo (balled up?). It is very solid and was liturally free floating in the cavity.?? Smile
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2.0.0 Varanus glauerti.
1.1.0 Varanus a brachyurus.
1.1.0 Chlamydosaurus kingii.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, sorry to hear the news, hope you find out exactly what it was.

Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry about your lost.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arborgoanna wrote:
Sorry for your loss, Bohan. The mass you have photographed looks like part of the fat bodies which would normally be found immediately upon cutting the animal's abdomen open.


Hi Folks,
You were right Arborgoanna, This lump was fat, there was an equally sized piece in the chest area. I must admit i'd expected to find fat in streamlined deposits complimenting the animals shape rather than stonking great lumps?? Lesson learnt.
The vet cut her open even further than i did and had a good look around, he said there was no reason to send it of for further investigation.
He pointed out to me that the animal looked in very good shape and healthy but the kidneys were pale, the other organs looked pale but he couldnt be 100% sure, the liver was bloody/watery and as i said in my first post, there was a lot of "free blood" in the abdominal area. The ovarys had developing eggs................
He believed that the animal died of internal injurys.....I can exept that.
So its my fault she died, for the first 2 days in there new cage the Kims spent most of this time base jumping with no shutes, This all adds up to her injurys.
I cant believe my luck (not as unlucky as her though!), i've waited decades for some dwarf monitors and when i finally get the lizards of my dreams i kill one, my only female, out of ignorance, i should have known better, W*~#£r.

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1.1.0 Varanus a brachyurus.
1.1.0 Chlamydosaurus kingii.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutted for you mate. i know how you must feel, having lost my female peacock monitor, while on holiday. found her dead in nest box after laying her first clutch of thirteen eggs. good luck finding a new female.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mate, Sorry to hear about your loss too..
Im half way there funds wise, just finding one is gunna be hard me thinks but i might be able to find some unrelated blood? Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, i was tempted to buy a young adult male, but didn't because i dont think theirs much chance of finding a female. i suppose you would have to buy hatchlings, but its taking a bit of a chance. how easy/hard are kim's to sex? what about somewhere like Hamm?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How far developed were the eggs? It is not uncommon to hear about female monitors dying from egg yolk peritonitis after suffering some abdominal injury (ie. perhaps hopping from rock to rock, etc.). In the past few years, I recall hearing of at least two, possibly three cases of this in captive female monitors on several varanid fora.

Tough break, from the sounds of it, there is not much you could have done anyways. Thanks for sharing your information and test results with us. Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys, Ham might be an option, i'll have to look into that. Sexing Kimberlys, like most monitors is tricky but i have read the males may have small spur like scales on the tail base, so might the females but they arnt as prominant? so not much to go on there.
Having nearly, partly reared 3 glauerti i noticed a size difference taking place as they grew. Two of them (males?) started to get ahead of the one i've lost, although they seemed to eat and bask as often as one another this cant be relyed on.
The eggs were very small and to be honest i wasnt really sure what i was looking at but i saw about 6 tiny white things down one side that were between 1 & 3mm across, the vet said It was a female, here are the eggs, they were to small to cause problems i think?

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