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Bloodboy2000
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 Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: Fattening Up a Veiled Chameleon |
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Hoping someone can help me basically received a male veiled male the other week settling in fine no problem woofing down anything either running around the cage or from a bowl, now he is very skinny but through my observations have noticed he cannot fully extend his tongue probably no more than 1.5~2".
Now is there anything extra i can do for him in order to give him a bump start as such with regards to food, i hate to see any animal on the skinny side and he is so stunning id hate to feel there was a solution and i didn't go looking for it.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
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rickeezee is ya man on that 1 but im sure many more know a lot aswell just rick is very good with chams in my experience hope hes ok poor little cham  |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| cass wrote: | | rickeezee is ya man on that 1 but im sure many more know a lot aswell just rick is very good with chams in my experience hope hes ok poor little cham |
Tom Hi
If he is scoffing everything and is receiving a varied diet he will soon grow, they grow very quickly and it will not take him long to fill out. When mine where young uns I used to feed them twice a day as much as they could eat at each meal time. A few wax worms now and then but don't over do it with these only to b used as the odd treat due to the high fat content. How old is he Tom?
As long as the temps are right and he has a good uv tube he will grow!
I supplemented my young ones x3 per week with calcium and x1 per week wit a vit / min supplement, easing of as they got older.
My personal preference is to ensure high quality food is going into them, as opposed to over rely upon supplementation, well fed and gut loaded crickets, locusts etc. Like a car put in crap fuel you ruin the engine! Food being the fuel in this case. If anything I probably under supplement now with consequent young chams and hope that the quality of the food will ensure they are healthy.
I am not a great fan of too many supplements. But this is just my view.
The tongue thing baffles me to be honest, he would not be eating so well if he had mouth rot or something like that, plus you would notice. I have encountered this before but have to date not found a solution to the problem and have tried loads of different things to try and encourage the tongue flicking. That is not with a Yemen but another flavour cham.
You say he is eating realy well so I would not over worry about the tongue flicking. May even be just habit / behavioural.
Good luck and keep us updated on his progress would be great to see some pics of him.
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Rickeezee
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He looks ok to me, hard to see if he is overly thin or not as he is in defensive mode in the pic and has inflated his lungs up.
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Thanks for all the advice mate i will try and get some more when he isn't so pleased to see me,
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Don't mean to scare no-one but i have read that cham who do not extend there toungue may have an infection, this is the caption i found:
Toungue infection
Symptons inlcude failure to fully extens the toungue when feeding, swelling of the toungue, and/or a swollen gular area.
Further symptoms include the inability to use the toungue to feed oreven to feed at all. The remedy to this situation is to go to the vet ASAP.
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my cham looks like that so no need to worry id say. he looks fine.
actually rick if you read this, my chams crest is black right at the top....its not cut open or anything just gone a horrid black colour, what would this be?
i thought he may have got to close to the uv light... |
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| linda wrote: | my cham looks like that so no need to worry id say. he looks fine.
actually rick if you read this, my chams crest is black right at the top....its not cut open or anything just gone a horrid black colour, what would this be?
i thought he may have got to close to the uv light... |
Hard to say Linda. My Alfie has black markings on his casque that are more noticeable at certain times than others. I think that if he has burnt it you would notice some scar tissue or flaking of dead skin. If he is healthy in all other ways I realy would not worry to much, as long as the black skin is not necrotic tissue, which I realy do doubt that it is. If it was, you would without a doubt have noticed something going on, as you obviously care for him very well.
I can only speak of my own experiences, but at times I have been worried about Alfies casque as it has gone gone all weird sort of colors and even has looked bent at times! But he is fine so is his casque.
I am not saying I am right about your chams casque as it is hard to say for sure. But I certainly would not worry to much unless anything becomes realy obvious as a problem.
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